Season 1, Episode 6 Transcript
Chase: Hey, guys. It’s C.S. Joseph here with csjoseph.life, talking about Jungian analytical psychology. Or, quite frankly, how to social engineer people using Jungian psychological archetypes.
Chase: In the last video, we talked about extraverted feeling. That’s the third in the four cognitive functions that are associated with judgments or decision making. And, today’s topic is going to be introverted thinking, also known as Ti. Or, big T, little I. Introverted thinking.
Chase: What is introverted thinking? Introverted thinking is, basically, logic. It’s the individual true-false judgment. We’ve already talked about rationale, where it’s the collective true-false judgment, where, collectively, majority rules as far as decisions that are being made. That is also, kind of, the same with extraverted feeling. The reason for that is because, with extraverted feeling, it’s majority rules with the good or bad. For example, we talked about introverted feeling yesterday, with morals. Morals is the personal value judgment. The collective believes abortion is a good thing, but an individual may feel that it is a bad thing. That’s the difference between ethics and morals.
Chase: The difference between rationale and logic is that the collective may believe something is true or false through statistics or data, but logic is when the individual believes something is true or false. Let’s explore that. If you remember, in our video about Te, or rationale, we had that model where we had 10 tables set up with 10 thoughts at each table. And, they’re all going true-false at the same time per table, and each of the queues at each table’s getting shorter and shorter because those are thoughts. And, majority rules. If six out of 10 said yes or no towards true-false, that’s how the decision was made.
Chase: Someone who makes decisions by logic with Ti, has one table with a hundred thoughts at that table, and they’re all going true-false, true-false, true-false, true-false, on a case-by-case basis really quick.
Chase: A Ti user would an ENFJ, an ESFJ, an INFJ, an ISFJ, ENTP, like my type, ESTP, INTP, or ISTP. Those are the eight archetypes that have introverted thinking in their top four functions, their egos. And, that’s what I call Ti users, essentially.
Chase: Of course, some TI users prefer to use extroverted feeling more, because Ti is in an axis with extroverted feeling. So, if you have extraverted feeling hero, you automatically have introverted thinking inferior, hero being at the top of the four, inferior being at the bottom of the four. Now, obviously, you have parent-child in there, as well. And, if you have … Let’s say you had Ti parent, you have Fe child. That’s what I have, for example. But, logically speaking, because it’s introverted thinking, that is the formula it follows within the human mind.
Chase: Again, it’s just true-false. It just becomes this rapid form decision making, based on if then, then this. If that, then that. If this happens, then this will happen. Or, if this happens, I’m going to make this decision. It’s basically constant Boolean decision making. Going back and forth, true-false processing.
Chase: A person who utilizes logic can, actually, arrive at truth, or a form of truth, true-false, because it’s more of an individual making that decision instead of the collective. We all know how logic can be flawed with logical fallacies. But, even logical fallacy, like ad hominem, for example … Ad hominem is, basically, extroverted feeling in a logical argument. Because they’re both linked together on that axis, someone’s positing a point with their Ti, but then it causes an emotional response. “I think, therefore you feel.” That’s how our sentences work. Or, “If you’re having an emotional reaction, that gives me a thought judgment about it. A true-false judgment. Whereas, if you were having a feeling about something, that would give me a label judgment, a rational judgment.”
Chase: “Oh, you’re feeling that way?” Or, “I’m feeling that one way.” Or, if say, “I’m feeling one way, someone else would have thought judgments, and they’d label me because of my feelings, apparently, that I’m sharing with them.”
Chase: Fe, with it being linked to Ti, there’s always this emotional tinge that people have to truth. Because, for example, you get into an argument with somebody, or your explaining something to somebody, and it’s like, “Oh, well, you’re very argumentative.” And, then it’s like, “No, I’m just telling you the truth.” Well, see, people always have an emotional reaction to truth. Just like people have an emotional reaction to data. Although, a person’s emotional reaction to data’s like, “Okay, this is good. Or, this is bad. This has a good or bad outcome.” It’s not really as much as true-false outcome when it comes to the individual.
Chase: When someone’s talking about ethics, then you get into the gray area, or the black and white area, of true-false. This person makes an ethical judgment, people around them are having true-false reactions to their ethics, when they say that, “Abortion is okay.” And, then, someone might say, “Well, no, I don’t think so.” They’re not saying, “No, I don’t feel so.” They’re saying, “No, I don’t think so.” And, there’s a reason for that. Again, it comes out in our sentences.
Chase: All of the cognitive functions, actually, comes out with how we speak and almost every behavior we have. Even drinking Jamba Juice one day, and how fast you’re drinking your Jamba Juice, or whether or not you savor it, all of that, it literally comes down to your cognitive functions. And, that’s a mixture of perception functions with decision making or judging functions, of course, in that action. But, still, it’s cognitive function based.
Chase: Remember, cognitive functions are frequencies in which your brain, or your mind, can tune into for decision making and information gathering. And, introverted thinking is no different.
Chase: Let’s talk about some of the types that have introverted thinking. There’s the ISTP, that’s the craftsman, also known as the mechanic. The mechanic uses it to logically figure out a mechanic system, for example. They’re the ones that invent this amazing skateboard with an engine attached to it, and then they’re crazy enough to go try it out. That is a craftsman.
Chase: Or, you have the ESTP, also known as the persuader, who’s basically there for looking at existing structures, looking at existing systems, and if they think that there’s any falseness to that structure … It could be, for example, rules. They like to test out rules, and boundaries, to see if they’re actually worth being there. Rules and boundaries are attached to rationale, we’re trying to see if it’s worth being there, that’s an Fi approach. But, they have Fi tricksters, so there’s a lack of awareness of Fi there. They can really, really judge very critically how that system and rule works by putting it into practice. And, they give other people experiences with Se hero from a logical point of view. “Okay, well, how do you feel about this rule and whatnot?” And, then, they’ll intentionally break the rule in front of others to see if there’s a reason to have that rule there. If there is no reason to have that rule there, they’ll never follow it.
Chase: Ever. If they don’t think that rule should exist, then they’re never gonna follow it, because the ESTP exists to test the structure. And, if it has weak points, weakness in the rules, weakness in its logic, for example … ‘Cause they’ll look at it, “Why does everyone think this is okay? This is obviously not okay, because if this is gonna happen, then this is gonna happen, and this person’s gonna get screwed.” So, they end up having an ethical reason after their logic processes the entire system, piece by piece. Instead of looking at the system as a whole, they will literally break it down piece by piece, screw by screw. What the ESTP would do would tear down the entire system, completely tear it down, and replace it with something better. Or, they would tear parts out of it, and put in new parts to make it more reinforced.
Chase: That’s what the ESTP does. And, they do it through argument, they do it through their approach to mechanics, and improvement and innovation. It’s like the mechanical innovator or the idea innovator in a moment, which basically is the persuader.
Chase: An ENTP is similar to the persuader in that way, except it’s not very existing system-based, because the ESTP’s the ultimate realist. But, the ENTP is the ultimate … I don’t want to say novelist. It’s more like … ‘Cause that’s more of the ENFP. It’s more, they’re focused on the vision, and, “Okay, what new system could we bring in later?”
Chase: It’s not about what’s going on right now, which is the perspective of the ESTP. They’re very future-oriented with it.
Chase: INTP’s are very similar, except they want to control every aspect of the system, ’cause they’re going to create a nice system, but they’re gonna do it piece by piece, kind of like Legos. And, if they find out that a piece that they’re building isn’t working, they’ll tear it down, start over again, and put in the proper pieces, and they continue on. And, they could do this really, really quick with their Ti hero.
Chase: It’s extremely difficult, especially when I’m arguing with Ti heroes, ISTP’s and INTP’s, it’s extremely hard to break them out of their own thinking, ’cause there are times when Ti parent will see that Ti hero is actually wrong. But, the only way to defeat Ti hero is with data. It’s with rationale. I have to end up doing a lot of research, getting a lot of statistics, getting a lot of different opinions, and presenting that to the Ti hero. And, only then will the Ti hero consider my point.
Chase: Ti can get stuck in its thinking. Ti can have flawed logic. But, that’s what rationale is for, to help keep it in check. That’s what ethics is for, because an ethical person can be like, “Oh, you’re saving the world, Ti. Great. Ti hero, save the world.” But, you’re hurting the children in the process. There’s collateral damage. The ethics will get involved and help keep Ti in check.
Chase: People with high Ti also tend to have people label them as arrogant. It’s because they’re just so focused on what’s true, that it’s not about how they feel about it. Because, from their point of view, absolute truth is a real thing. And, truth is undeniable. “If this is true, it doesn’t matter how anyone feels about it, it doesn’t matter what anyone’s emotions are about it. It’s true, and people should just deal with the hard facts, and deal with the harsh truth, and grow up and learn. And improve themselves.”
Chase: Ti is all about improving, because the Ti truth comes out, which causes the ethics in that caring Fe function, on the axis, to care for others and to improve them and make them better.
Chase: Ti is like fire. It burns things, but it purifies what the Fe on the other side of the axis. And, that’s why you have people who have harsh truth, and they’re not willing to compromise in their thinking in that way. Unless, of course, you show them data and statistics, and arguments, otherwise. But, again, they’re going to evaluate all those arguments on a case by case, piece by piece basis. If they find any logical flaws in your argument, they’re just going to reject it entirely.
Chase: Anyway, that concludes today’s talk on Ti, or introverted thinking, logic. If you found this video helpful, or educational, or informational, please like and subscribe. If you have any questions relating to introverted thinking, please feel free to leave a comment, and I will do my best to answer your questions, for sure.
Chase: Anyway, I’ll probably do another video tonight, so I’ll talk to you all later.