Season 2, Episode 8 Transcript


Chase: Hey guys, so last two videos we did were on the interaction styles. We went over the direct initiating control types, also known as the structure types and the in-charge types. We also went over the informative initiating movement types, which are the started types which is where I’m in. That’s my interaction style.

Chase: And today we’re gonna be talking about the “see it through” types and some call them the “chart the course” types, which are the direct responding movement types. So the four types that are in this interaction style category are the ISTJ, the ISTP, the INTJ and the INFJ.

Chase: So what does that mean? Why are they called the “see it through” types? It’s because they’re just obsessed with finishing absolutely everything and I mean everything. They have a hard time starting things but if they end up seeing what somebody else is doing, they’ll take over and they’ll just finish all the way through and they’ll put all of that energy into finishing. It’s kind of the opposite of the starters, who’ll put all that energy into starting and then we won’t have as much energy to finish it. While the see it through types are basically the complete opposite. They’ll focus on finishing as anyone would expect them to be able to and to do it and they’ll do it quickly and they’ll do it efficiently, which is really great.

Chase: I love chart the course types, I find them fantastic. ISTJ’s for example, they’re really focused on gathering as much knowledge as possible. They’re like a walking encyclopedia and very scholarly individuals. And most times they approach projects like processes that they need to learn, implementation, by-laws within a firm, et cetera. They’ll make sure that those things are seen through, especially because of how safety oriented they are. They’re always trying to guard against risk, especially in an organization, in even their relationships. And that’s why they like to have rules, boundaries and standards outlined up-front or if there are no rules, boundaries or standards outlined, then that’s not how they would start behaving in that way.

Chase: ISTPs, the way they finish things, they finish things like construction projects or they’ll get an idea in their head and they’ll think on it and think on it and think on it for hours, days, weeks, months and then all of a sudden they’ll find randomly a piece of wood for example, that they weren’t expecting to find and then they see it and they know that they could make whatever they had in their head to do it. So they immediately finish that entire process and they go to their wood shop and they are completely consumed by this project. So much so that even ISTPs are often accused of being alcoholics on a regular basis. In fact, all four of the see it through types are accused of being workaholics and there’s not really much that can be done about that.

Chase: So the INTJ is very similar. They take things from … They like to take existing designs and make them better. And then create projects or reach goals that they have for themselves. Or they adjust other peoples, or they take on other peoples goals and then turn them into their own personal goals ’cause they made changes to that goal and they’ve seen it through.

Chase: INFJs do the same thing, except instead of a project-based or technology-based or systems-based thing, like an INTJ would do, they again, they’re an idealist so they focus on social change. So they’re all about bringing about that social change and whatever activity or form of activism or form of social change that they’re looking for, they will absolutely go out of their way to make that happen. No matter what. To the point where they’ll be so self sacrificing, they won’t even sleep. Course INTJs do that as well, let’s be honest. ISTPs kinda do that as well but not as much. And ISTJs usually they go out of their way to take care of themselves and have self discipline and get into a good sleeping pattern but the rest of the see it through types, not so much.

Chase: So let’s talk about the interaction style itself for the see it through types. Direct, responding, movement. So they’re direct, just like the in charge types, like the structure types. Men of few words or women of few words, they say what they mean and they mean what they say. They’re short and to the point. And they’re only going to speak when it comes to … being as succinct as possible and to the point, unlike me who’s informative and will talk your face off for days. They’re not really so interested in that. So much so that even like talking and text chat bothers them because they want to just say what they mean and then text chat often has people like me, who are like “Okay, that could be up to interpretation” and it just causes them stress because they’re not so interested in having to explain themselves to everybody, all the time.

Chase: Direct oriented types and the in charge structure types or the see it through types, both those interaction styles really, really struggle with that. And it’s important that they’re able to be as succinct as possible. Now of course, if they’re in a social situation, where someone is initiating with them, a see it through type may go into their informative, subconscious or their informative unconscious depending on which one they have and then they might go informative for a short amount of time until they lose that mental energy but until that time, they’re mostly just gonna be focused on being direct ’cause that’s their primary form of interaction, being direct in their ego, basically. And that’s what they’ll do.

Chase: They’re also responding so this is a little different. We talked about initiating a lot. In charge structure types as well as starter types are all about being initiatory, initiating with people. But the see it through types are the first of the four, of the eight, the first four types of the eight introverts, basically.

Chase: And they’re introverted because they are responding. It’s not because they’re less outgoing. I know plenty of INFJs that are extremely outgoing. I know a lot of ISTPs that are extremely outgoing, based on the social situation that they’re in. It has nothing to do with being outgoing. People think extraversion means outgoing, that’s not true at all. Being outgoing means you’re less insecure when it comes to having relationships or interacting with fellow human beings, that’s what that means. So it’s whether or not your inferior function, your fourth cognitive function is developed enough to not be as insecure about that as other people and as that can inhibit a lot of types from having good outgoing social interaction. That has nothing to do with that. It really means you’re responding. So you respond, you prefer to do that because your mind is energized in that introverted state, where it’s like just you or you and one other person, you’re able to respond to them. An extraverted situation is three’s a crowd, when that happens the introvert loses energy, right? And it’s that energy loss that becomes a problem. And that usually happens because they’re forced to initiate, if an introvert is in three’s a crowd situation, they’re introverting and they have to initiate in order to participate in the social situation. Whereas their main mod is responding actually.

Chase: Now if they were at speaking conference and it’s a Q&A form and they’re responding to questions, that’s different and they can maintain their mental energy level for social situations pretty well. But otherwise, it really doesn’t matter because they prefer to respond. They like when people come to them for information. I had this INTJ friend for example, he gets upset very easily when no one talks to him, as if it’s everyone’s responsibility to talk to him. Before he even had a status within our group that would give him some power or responsibility or some level of importance in the eyes of the entire group that we’re in, he still expected people to communicate with him about everything and it’s like “Dude, it’s not that important, we’re not here to answer all of your questions every single day.” Or “We’re not here to keep you informed on every little detail about what we’re doing.” That’s just an extreme case of how responding can get out of hand because responding types, sometimes they are liable to not communicate with anyone, until someone has initiated with them, and that’s an issue.

Chase: So I recommend, if you have introverts or if you have anyone who is responding with their interaction style, keep them informed. Seriously, keep them informed. It can only benefit you. Yes, it’s a little bit more effort and yes, you may want to be choosy about what kind of information you share with responding types, but if you want them to be remotely useful to you or helpful to you or have a good relationship with them, please keep them in the loop. Seriously, even if it seems like it’s more effort, or even if it seems like it’s not going to help you right now. Don’t be selfish about it and just tell them because the only way the introverts are going to interact with everyone else is if you actually go to them and you make that extra step and you do that little bit of extra effort and you inform them or you talk to them or you initiate with them. Someone’s gotta do it, right? And that’s especially true of the see it through types.

Chase: The final interaction style which is behind the scenes, not so much because they don’t necessarily need to be informed and they like informing other people but when you have direct and responding in the same interaction style, that means there’s a lack of communication there that is just innately there. So you gotta be aware of this. So make sure that you are communicating with these people, even if they don’t deserve it, even if you don’t think it’s useful. Even if you don’t think it’s not going to help because I guarantee you regardless of the result, if you put in the effort to communicate with these people, you will get better results. That’s a fact. So remember that, especially for see it through types, not so much for behind the scenes, but it’s especially important for see it through types.

Chase: Now regarding the final aspect of the interaction style, they’re very movement oriented. So they fly by the seat of their pants, just like I do. They’re very progress oriented. A see it through type can definitely work in a chaotic scenario. Things do not have to be under control for them. Sometimes they need to inject chaos to get the progress they want. Progress is everything. It doesn’t have to necessarily be milestones. And if things start feeling stagnant, things are slowing down and things are stagnating, they will go crazy and they’ll even withdraw and they’ll start doing something else because they’re trying to chart the course. They’re trying to finish what they have started and finishing is everything to these people. So if they’re trying to finish but they’re being inhibited in some way by well, there’s a lot of different ways people could be inhibited by like a project slow down or a coworker not doing a good enough job or something bad happening with somebody’s health and them not showing up. Or all of a sudden, someone has to take their kid home, or who knows? Situations get in the way that slow down progress and they’ll go crazy. And sometimes if they see a pattern of progress slowing even if it’s unrelated but progress is still slowing, they’ll withdraw from the project completely or they’ll just withdraw from relationship or they’ll just withdraw.

Chase: And sometimes they jump to conclusions, all of the see it through types are at-risk of doing this but sometimes they jump to conclusions because they’re not getting enough movement as quickly as they’re used to or as quickly as they want and then they just straight up leave. And it’s like “What the hell man? Where did you go? What are we doing here?” So you have to make sure that when you’re working or in a relationship or handling somebody who is a see it through type, ISTJ, ISTP, INFJ, INTJ, those four types, make sure that you’re able to produce some kind of progress or insist in progress, or not inhibit them from creating the progress that they need. Progress is everything. They are movement types, they need movement. If movement slows, they will go crazy and it will have adverse effects on your relationship with that person, that’s a fact.

Chase: So if you’re a control type in relationship with movement type, you need to be willing to allow for chaos in you our relationship with your movement type person because if not, you will lose them. You can’t control their behavior, you can’t expect them to follow your system all the time, right? But at the same time, even movement types need control because their chaos can get them in trouble and they need to adhere to some sort of structure, some sort of routine in their life, in order for them to be successful. Otherwise, INTJs will be staying up til 4 and 5 in the morning all over the world, every single one of them, all the time and it’s the most frustrating thing in the world. Kinda hard for them to see anything through and get any progress in their life if they’re not having a regular sleeping pattern. But what INJ has a regular sleeping pattern? I don’t know. I’ve probably maybe met one, that has that. That’s weird but that’s just how they are. It’s all about … So they need that additional structure that a control type can bring, it’s very healthy for them because they lack that discipline to have that sleeping pattern.

Chase: Now some people, like even Jordan Peterson, would say that that’s a sign of immaturity. Okay, yeah, it could be seen as a sign of immaturity but it’s these types, it’s their natural proclivity to do that. It’s not necessarily that they’re mature or immature. I remember, I knew a very mature INFJ mother of four children that I went to church with when I was a little kid and she would stay up till 4 in the morning on a regular basis on top of having a job and raising children and somehow she pulled it off. Well, she drank a lot of coffee and then she ended up giving herself adrenal fatigue and then gained a whole bunch of weight because her hormones were so screwed up ’cause women have a hard time producing testosterone when they have cortisol in their system because the caffeine is in their system every 18 hours, so what are you gonna do, right? Regardless, better decisions could be made.

Chase: But any type out there, they need an ethical reason for something, they need a rational reason for something, they need a logical reason, they need some outer force of some kind with every type to try to change their behavior for the better. That’s why no one type can do it all, that’s why no one type is better than the others, right? And that’s the same with interaction styles. No one interaction style is better than the other, even though starter types can finish what they start, even though see it through types can’t start things that they finish, it’s weird but that’s how we work. And that’s why human beings are built for relationships with each other so that we can partner up on tasks or projects and get things done and have mutual goals. The human race is designed for relationships. If you do not have relationships with people, that means you are a failure. Because in order for you to get anywhere in this life, you need to have relationships with people, you need to be interacting with other human beings. And that’s inside your temperament and outside your temperament, and that’s for all types no matter what, all 16.

Chase: So anyway, in review, the four types that are the see it through types ISTJ, ISTP, INTJ, INFJ, they are the direct responding movement types. Mean what they say, say what they mean, responding, not initiating and they prefer movement over control. Just make sure that they got to progress and you will have a great relationship with these people. So that about sums up the see it through types, the next up interaction style, the final interaction style is gonna be behind the scenes and that’s gonna be the next video. And then I’m gonna do a review video which will talk about how to use the temperaments and the interaction styles to literally type anybody, including yourself, with 100% accuracy without freakin’ test. So you know 100% this person is XYZ type and then you can start understanding their cognitive functions and having a better relationship with them.

Chase: Anyway, if you found this video helpful, educational, whatnot, like and subscribe please, support the channel. Otherwise, leave a comment if you have any questions and I’ll answer them as I always do. So I’ll see you folks later, have a good day.

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