Season 10, Episode 8 Transcript
– Hey guys, it’s C.S. Joseph with csjoseph.life doing another episode for season 10. And this is season 10, episode 8, also known as the final episode of this season. Truth be told, this is actually the third time that I filmed this lecture. And the first two times is all because of audio issues, and I really hope that I don’t have audio issues again. That would be nice. But also because this particular lecture is probably going to be one of the most important lectures that I do because I think the types involved with this lecture sure are pretty misunderstood. And I think it’s very important for this community to understand their core value. And don’t worry, I’m going to criticize the hell out of them during this lecture but I’m also gonna be shedding some light on just how utterly important these two types are, to be able to make sure that everyone within this audience understands like their value, their true worth. What they really mean to the rest of the human race while simultaneous being able to cultivate long lasting meaningful relationships, friendships, social interactions, specifically with these two types. And I maintain it as very important to do so, especially with a lot of life lessons learned by me personally, as of recent involving both of these types.
I think it’s that this audience on the YouTube channel and also on the podcast, understand specifically where these two types are coming from that way, while some of them would believe that they’re being persecuted by me and others maintain the other like it’s too rosy for the other type, not necessarily. I’m trying to make sure that we be as objective as possible within this lecture maintaining a positive, a negative outlook, for the benefit of everybody within this audience. So without further ado, this is a season 10, episode 8, “How Do INTPs Compare To INFPs?” And that’s right, we’re talking about INPS and how important they are to all of human cognition and to our race and total, et cetera. And what they mean, where they’re coming from, how are they similar, how are they different and the like. And I do apologize that it has taken so long to get this particular lecture out. Right now, the team and I are actually focusing on quality more so than quantity of videos released. So we’re really going out of our way to up our quality as much as we can, just so that we have the opportunity to make some pretty good strides with the video content. Hopefully the lighting is still pretty good here and leaving the comments by the way, if you think that we need to have better lighting come from above, but I think we kind of have our lighting established right now. Don’t quote me on that, and also for the audio, if you want to see some changes but I think the audio is pretty good as well, but again correct me where I’m wrong. We’ll get into that.
So let’s get down to business. We’ve got the trustee elder wands right here and never lectured out the other one. I mean, I wonder is it possible that this audience thinks that like, I mean one day I’m gonna be speaking in front of a full stadium of people at one point in time. I mean, it’s going to happen, it is inevitable. And when that does happen, do you think I should be presenting with my elder wand, even in that situation? I mean, I could be wearing like a nice a black-on-black suit and tie, walking around with an elder wand, like a madman delivering a presentation to like a huge crowd. Not entirely sure that’s gonna be feasible, and I’m sure the INP is watching this particular lecture were just triggered by that, but that’s okay. I mean, that’s what Se Demon does to you folks, I trigger you, so sorry about that but also at the same time, not sorry, not remotely, not even a little. So just so you guys know, I mean I’m sorry enough to be polite and not sorry enough to be spiteful. So I mean, that is the Se Demon way, if you know what I’m saying.
So anyway, let’s talk about both these two types and kind of like, a re-introduction of the types in terms of interaction styles and temperaments similarities and differences before we dive into cognitive functions. So let’s talk about why they’re very, very similar, and that really comes down to their interaction style. Interaction style speaking, these two types are both background types, they’re both informative, responding control. Informative means that they choose their role or they do not choose their role in the conversation. They’re more likely to talk loud, it’s mostly because they’re beating around the bush and they’re not really getting to the meat, potatoes of the issue. They would rather tell you that they’re out of milk instead of telling you to go get milk because they’re not very directive, they’re not choosing their role in the conversation. They’re giving you, their audience the opportunity to choose your role in the conversation because they don’t want to come off as someone who’s disrespectful or someone who’s creating conflict. Harmony is very important to them because of their comfort zone and based on that harmony and the direction that they want to take that harmony, that’s basically the direction they want to continue to go in.
So with that in mind, just to understand, when they’re being informed, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re being so avoidant is that they’re actually really trying to be respectful for the most part in that area. Or they’re too scared to actually just come out and say something, or they’re just not really in a mental state to be able to be direct. Now that being said, the INTP can be direct because they have Ti hero. Ti hero is actually very direct function and can be direct, whereas the Fi hero is more of an informative function from an INFP point of view. And when an INFP is direct, it’s usually more because they’re in the other side of their mind and it can be more of an issue. Whereas an INTP interact, they’re either taking charge or they’re just telling you straight up what the fact is that that moment because they’re not willing to beat around the bush for you anymore because they’re likely annoyed. So just keep that in mind with how they’re informative. They’re both introverts, so they’re both responding and the responding is important because they like it when people come to them, instead of them going to other people. They also very, very much value their quiet time. Please understand, like from an introverted spectrum while direct responding movement types AKA finishers are more, they are introverted. They’re not as introverted as the behind the scenes background types like the INTP and the INFP, they’re even more introverted. And they really value that alone time even much more than they have previously or when compared to finishers that is. So just be aware of that. And then also they’re very control based. So a control based person, they’re very outcome focused. It’s all about the outcome, and they have to develop a specific process or methodology per outcome that they encounter in their life, per goal, et cetera, per outcome that they’re looking for.
They understand that order determines outcome and then in order to get to the proper outcome, you need to have the proper order to get there. Whereas a movement type doesn’t really necessarily need order to get to that outcome. They can have a master order or a master process, or a master method that they use for like basically everything and they just fly by the seat of their pants. Whereas a control it like an INTP or an INFP, they have a specific order for specific outcome. And then as a result of that, mentally, they’re taxed a little bit more to create this time spent and the energy spent to create the specific order to achieve the specific outcome in their life and then as a result of that, it slows things down. This is why control types are considered slower than movement types. They’re slower in their eating, they have a specific process per dish of food that they follow. Whereas a movement type has, they’re just going to eat and just gonna get it done quicker.
The movement types typically finish their food more so faster than control types, movement types are typically in and out of vehicles faster than control types, movement types typically drive faster than control types because control types have a specific order for every single specific outcome in their life, right? And it slows things down, they go at their own pace, they take their own sweet time. That’s just generally how control works. So they are both informed responding control, and because they’re both background types, it can be very difficult for people to differentiate the two, okay. Now temperaments, that’s there’s some similarities there but there’s also differences. So let’s talk about temperaments. One of the ways that they’re still the same, if we’re gonna be talking about similarities, so is that they’re both abstract. Unlike people who are concrete, who are focused on the what is, the INFP and the INTP are very abstract and they’re focused the what if and what if, means a lot to them, right? And what if, what if this happens? What if that happens? it’s all about the possibility. And because they have that abstraction, the INFP is able to use their knowledge of abstraction to basically abstract the current social order of the world. Right, where they just can’t fathom that something like war even exists. It’s so foreign to them, it’s like, why is war a thing?
Whereas an INTP does it differently and it’s like, who built this building? Who built this computer? Who made this? Who made that? They’re like technologists, they’re like who made the system? This is really retarded. I can’t fathom that someone would think that this is actually a very good manufacturing process or that this is a way of doing this thing. What is this method? And this is absolute crap, it would be so much easier if we didn’t have to do, /social, we could just do, .social, instead, who knows, right? There’s so many different applications to the abstraction of these two types as INPs. But again, they’re both abstract and that’s another similarity it makes it difficult to tell the difference between the other. With that being said, like I said talking about the abstraction in terms of systems, the INTP is systematic whereas the INFP is actually very interest based. Interest means that they are aware of what they get out of a situation versus what somebody else gets out of a situation, right, very, very important. So it’s like, ’cause it’s all about an exchange of value because of Fi hero being aware of what is valuable and being able to articulate that value through their extraverted thinking inferior. This is why Fi hero, like INFPs are very coin operated, they’re very money driven, very numbers driven. They’re not gonna make a purchase unless it makes financial sense for them whereas an INTP, it’s not about the financial sense as much as it is about the practicality and solving the specific problem at that point in time. Is it gonna solve my problem, yes or no? Great, I’ll pay for it. Am I gonna get a deal on this? Okay, great, I’ll pay for it.
That’s the INTP versus the INFP way of doing things when it comes to purchasing decisions, it’s completely different. And it’s because it’s interest based versus systematic. The systematic thing is being focused on the methodology or the system or the process/procedure in that specific moment, right? Gosh, it’s so weird like, I mean, when I was growing up, no one would have ever said slash this slash that in their sentences and now it’s like a normal, socially accepted thing. Because we’re like, we’re talking about what we’re literally typing in our phones or keyboards. Gosh, culture has like completely changed. I mean, come on INFPs, did you ever actually imagined that that would be happening to us? I mean, was that way beyond your extraverted intuition parents, if you know what I’m saying? So just a little abstractions like that, kind of keep us on our toes. So systematic versus abstract, but another way they’re also different is the INFP is very affiliative whereas the INTP is more pragmatic. This is one of the key differences, and this is usually one of the things that you can utilize to differentiate the two, is because INFPs are very interdependent because they are affiliated. They’re also very authoritarian, it’s all about following the rules or following the bouncing ball of life. They’re the people who would accept that going to college, getting a job, getting a career is a more safer route of doing things.
Whereas the INTP is just gonna figure out and trailblaze their own way because they’re very pragmatic, it’s all about being independent instead of interdependent. Actually one of the writers that we have on CSJ submitted a blog post about the differences between affiliative and pragmatic. And I reviewed it today and it was actually a really good post. And the post actually just demonstrates the differences and kind of like fleshes out what it really means, and I think they did a great job on it. It’s actually gonna be released very soon on csjoseph.life, this particular article. So it’s in the editing process, I’ll be very happy when it goes out. I’m looking forward to this one for a while but I think will help dispel some of the the concerns or some of the misunderstandings in terms of what the differences between pragmatic or affiliative, et cetera, so look forward to that pretty soon. But anyway, those are the temperaments and that we’ve also touched on interaction styles specifically for these two types. Just to understand like, as we’re using the type grid you want to identify their temperament, you want to identify their interaction style, it’s like timetables and then you instantly know on the type grid which type they are with a 100% accuracy. I just kind of want to define, okay, how these two types from their perspective actually see these concepts and how they utilize these concepts for their own personal interactions, for their own personal growth, et cetera, et cetera, right?
So, but anyway, let’s now dive into the meat and the potatoes of this particular lecture. And for this particular lecture, I would like to talk about a specific theme. A very very important theme when it comes to these two types. And this theme is important for anyone who is in a friendship, in a relationship, running a business with these peoples a coworker, or as a partner for your business, or they’re having a deeper social interaction that is more than just being an acquaintance with one of these types. Perhaps one of these types is helping you run a charity or they’re part of a founder for a movement, who knows? But regardless, it is important to understand this very very important concept when dealing with these two types. And I think this is going to be the theme or the motif of this lecture because this really applies to both of them. And again, it’s one of the similarities that they have that kind of helps make difficult to differentiate the two, however, conversely, I maintain this is actually one of the best ways to differentiate the two of these types together. Because this particular concept actually provides a justification for a lot of division between the two types. So just be aware of that as we get into that, but here is the theme. It’s actually a very, very important theme. It’s actually biblical, it comes, I think it’s from the book of Proverbs but like don’t quote me on that. I really think it is but particularly here’s the concept, you reap what you sow, okay. So what does that mean? Let’s explore that, you reap what you sow. It’s kinda like, when my mother would always tell me when I was a child, like when I would read things or I’d watch TV, she’d always say, garbage in, garbage out, right. It’s very similar with you reap what you sow. If you’re going to sow seeds in a field, right, you’re going to reap a crop eventually.
And then once you have that crop, you basically, you take a sickle and you’re basically farming, and then all of a sudden, boom, you have your crops done. You’ve gathered your harvest and you’re good to go. You reap or you harvest what you sow, and it’s no different between these two types. The reason why is that these two types are very, very earth oriented. The reason why is because they both have introverted sensing child. And these two types are also very water oriented because they both have Extraverted intuition parents. Remember in terms of the elements, right, if we’re gonna talk about elements, elemental magic or those types of things. And I don’t mean like elemental magic as in like actual magic, I mean, the symbology behind elemental magic is directly applied to these two types. And I know I’m getting really metaphysical here but bear with me. Extraverted intuition represents water, introverted sensing represents earth, introverted intuition represents fire, extraverted sensing represents wind, okay. And these are the elemental properties of the perception cognitive functions whereas the properties of the decision-making cognitive functions are actually more kind of like weapons, like actual weapons, et cetera. So just kind of keep your mind focused on that type of symbology when we’re applying them to the types, right. We’re actually going to be releasing a matrix very soon that explains all this in more depth, so that you can kind of see how that works, but bear with me. So both of these types are primarily water was because of their extraverted intuition parent and they are secondarily earth-based, but they’re very very earth based because their earth affinity really comes down to the fact that it’s a child function.
It is very optimistic, okay. The child function is an optimistic child. So understand that, like how that’s an important thing in terms of INPs, they’re very earth-based. Now when we talk about the concept of you reap what you sow, what are you doing? Okay, if you’re going to sow seeds, where do you sow those seeds? You sow them into earth. You got to till the earth, right, and then you sow the seeds. And then the seeds are there, and then they produce a crop, right, after you water and take care of it, et cetera. Well, that’s literally how these two types work. Not only that, they go even further with this symbology of the fact that they are earth. These two types, more than any other type represent the terra firma of the metaphysical, the terra firma of what possible, what does that mean? We hear about the statement of all that has happened before will happen again. What this means, is like that’s one of the laws of time. It was actually presented the first time I ever heard it was in “Battlestar Galactica,” the re-imagined series with Edward James Olmos as Adama, A very fantastic series although of a few plot holes I don’t necessarily agree with. But for the most part, it was a fantastic sci-fi series that I very thoroughly enjoyed. I just wish they’d actually explain how they actually have gravity on those ships because I have no idea how that was even possible. As far as I knew, like basically having a ship that basically kind of behave like an airplane in space, even though it doesn’t even have like noticeable gravity or whatever, I have no idea how that’s even possible. I mean, people in sci-fi very often forget how important gravity is. And as much as human beings need air and heat and water and food, et cetera, well, gravity is one of those basic needed human needs. I mean, if you guys didn’t know if you were to cut yourself in space, you’re basically gonna die because you’re not gonna even start the healing process because your body actually requires gravity in order to actually heal wounds.
And if you don’t have gravity, well, you’re gonna die. Even if it’s just a very tiny cut and you’re bleeding, good luck. You see what I’m saying? You might want to avoid that. Well, it’s no different with these types. These types represent terra firma. They represent solid ground with which the fate of humanity is based on. Why is that? Well, currently you could make the argument that SJs are also terra firma for all of our race but these are the terra firma for the intuitive. They are the terra firma for the, what is possible, right? We talk about terra firma as, and it basically translates into solid ground. These two types are solid ground. And why is that important? Take an INFP for example, this is one of their major, major core values that’s added to our race and why they’re so important. Now, granted, both these types are brilliant and these two types are the most brilliant of all of the types. You cannot get more brilliant than INPS, I’m sorry. INPs basically have the ability and the capability to out-think everyone, okay. And that’s for sure for Ti hero, It’s also the same thing for Fi hero because Fi hero thinks in terms of principles and value systems and values, and they can out-think everyone. It’s such that INFPs are actually brilliant day traders, they’re amazing in the financial game. A lot of people don’t realize that they just have those raw skills and the more experience that they gained, the more terra firma that they gained with their Si child, the more they’re able to use their extraverted intuition to actually predict outcomes, especially in areas of finance. That their Fi hero ends up creating value systems with their Te inferior and expresses it and they become amazing day traders, right. Whereas INTP, it’s a completely different approach.
They have to identify and create specific systems that they follow whereas there’s more interest based with the INFP from a day trading standpoint. But again, they both provide that solid foundation for the rest of our race to be able to handle what is possible, because these two types are aware of what is possible on a regular basis. I mean, everything is based on it. I mean, take the INFP, their core inner personal philosophy that they’ve developed over time as a result of reading, because if an INFP isn’t reading, like what the hell are they doing? You need to be reading. And if you’re not reading, you’re probably going to be like a burden on everybody else. And kind of like your philosophy is not gonna mean anything. And you’re not gonna be someone who’s providing that philosophy, which is the foundation for a movement that could inspire world change. Oftentimes, a friend of mine, he’s an INFJ has got this INFP friend who just has his head in the sand. He’s like the most ignorant person you’ve ever met. And if you would just stop being lazy and actually read books and expand his mind, he might actually, he has that devotion from his introverted sensing child where that he would be devoted to creating a movement based on a core in a personal philosophy that he would create.
And that would be the foundation for the NFJs of the NF temperament to take that philosophy and execute it. Execute it in such a way where our race begins to change. I mean, don’t forget folks like INFPs like recognize how important you are because without you, without you being these amazing philosophers that creates this philosophy and the system that you can oversee, it becomes the foundation for movements that inspire world change. And it’s the ENFJs that take your philosophy and execute that world change, et cetera. How is that going to happen if you’re too lazy, sitting at home on your phone, while your kids running around and your husband’s not home yet and it’s just an absolute nightmare. And then your husband gets home and you’re just sitting there being lazy all day long, playing on your phone and your kid’s diapers not even changed. There’s toys everywhere, it’s an absolute mess. You haven’t even done anything at all. The dishes aren’t even done, dinner’s not cooked and your husband gets home when it’s an absolute total like mess. And you’re like perfectly okay, just being there ignorant, not caring and basically becoming this insanely selfish person. You’re not even aware of it when in reality situation is what you should be doing, the good thing, is making sure that that doesn’t happen, right? Get out of your comfort zone, you need to read. You need to be developing your core inner personal philosophy because that is the foundation for any movement so that the ENFJs can take your philosophy, execute it, have that movement that you’re basically, cause you’re providing influence on the ENFJ and the ENFJ is being influenced by you and using their power, right?
Because remember, NJs are about power, whereas NPs are about influence, okay. NPs provide influence NJs provided and use power, right? So we are empowering the NJs to take our NP ideas, visions, originality, philosophies, methodologies to implement for the betterment of their companies, for movements and it’s supposed to provide world change. This is no different than with INTPs. INTPs basically need to develop what they call the perfect system. And a great example of the perfect system would be the perfect system that was created in the recent “Tron: Legacy” film. You have the INTP played by Jeff Bridges character who created this program known as CLU, C-L-U, and told CLU, hey, we’re gonna create the perfect system and made him in his own image. But CLU was so obsessed with perfection that it ended up destroying a miraculous AI system that became sentient within the construct known as the Grid. And because of that, it created a lot of problems. But the point is, as the INTP, their job, their philosophy basically is coming up with the perfect system or a perfect system, or an amazing system that can inspire real change. Well, what is one example of that? Well, here it is. This would not be possible without an INTP. Do you know which specific INTP I’m talking about? I’m talking about Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple. Without Steve Wozniak in that situation, providing influence, influence on Steve jobs, influence on the company of the Apple. And even though the iPhone came after Wozniak, it doesn’t matter.
Without Wozniak at the foundation, wait a minute, at the foundation of Apple with Steve jobs, the iPhone would never exist and we potentially would never have that huge amount of world change that we have now when it comes to various cell phone technologies, et cetera. Because I remember the very first announcement that Jobs made about the iPhone, It’s a phone, it has the internet, it has email. It has all of these different aspects, all in one place. It has all of your music, your MP3 player all in one device, right? It’s an all-in-one literal Omni-tool basically, and cell phone technology continues to get better and better and better, and when we are literally on the edge of a cliff right now for the next stage in cell phone technology evolution as 5G and eventually 6G becomes made available to humanity. And it’s gonna be absolute wide drastic change the amount of bandwidth, and eventually we’re gonna get to a point where we have unlimited bandwidth and that’s just gonna be life changing, world changing. It will be the next evolution of the tower of Babel that we have here on earth, and it’s gonna change everything forever and ever. This is what we call the law of accelerating returns.
It’s what Ray Kurzwell, also an INTP, talks about when he’s talking about singularity because singularity is coming. Well, I am not a transhumanist and I am actually against transhumanism. I do maintain that singularity is very real. If you do not know what singularity is, it’s basically how mankind will not be able to tell a difference between what is man or what is machine basically. And that’s supposedly coming around in 2045 according to predictions made by their prophet, Ray Kurzwell, who last I checked was somebody who was in charge of or a part of the artificial intelligence project at Google. Not really sure about that. I don’t have very much information on that, so take that with plenty of grains of salt but you get my drift. I recommend reading about singularity if you get the opportunity, but again, INTP trying to find that perfect system. And because you have that perfect system or have that perfect philosophy, it may not necessarily be perfect, but it may be a great system, it might be a great philosophy, et cetera that’s consistently improving based on the INFP or the INTP. The bottom line is this folks, the earth and water that they have, and specifically the earth inside of them, which is their introverted sensing child literally becomes the foundation for any company, any movement, any way of doing things, et cetera, that can inspire change, provide influence on people, on executor’s like NJs to execute that information or that way of doing things or that, for the sake of that movement or that company, and really inspire world change on a world macro level, right?
So, why is that important? It’s important because if you have an INTP or an INFP in your organization or within your movement, or in your business or whatever, you might want to listen to them. They really provide that solid ground. You don’t even realize, but those people are the foundation from which your organization survives, exists, breathes, lives, all of that. They are the backbone people, they are the foundation. Yeah, it’s kind of interesting because they’re very behind the scenes, right? They don’t often speak up. Who spends some time asking the INFP for their opinion? Who spends time asking the INTP for their thoughts on things? Not very many people. In fact, they’re actually the most overlooked of all the types, yet I would wager they are some of the most important, if not the most important of all the types , I mean, other than obviously the INFJ who’s responsible for being the tip of the spear for our race and bringing us a better tomorrow. But is that INFJ really going to be able to do that without having the terra firma provided by the INFP from which to stand upon? To be able to take the vision or the philosophy produced by the INFP and execute it for the betterment of our race? Do you think that’s even going to happen?
Wait a minute, chicken or the egg, right. Well, if we’re going to say the INFJ is the chicken, then the egg is definitely the INFP folks And we’re not gonna get very far without them. You guys need to understand that the people that you need to listen to the most, the people that you need to give a voice to the most are the people who speak the least. And guess what folks, that’s INPs. INPs speak the least, you need to listen to them. A good friend of mine, although we kind of fell out of contact recently, I don’t know if he still watches this channel and I really hope he does. And I’ve got to give a shout out to him. His name is Kelsey, great guys in the Bay Area, an amazing gentlemen, shared some great opinions about the INFP archetype with me. And he said this, “INFPs with their Te inferior, we are so afraid that our opinion will be drowned out by all of the other opinions around us and we won’t be heard. And then we won’t inspire change and things will continue to be made uncomfortable for us because no one is listening to our opinion.” And then it’s like, great, no one’s listening to our opinion, no one’s allowing me to give input based on the amount of thinking, the amount of crunching that I’ve done in my head, like, okay, this is a good thing, this is a bad thing, this is good, this is bad. Constantly thinking about it, they’re never not thinking at all times with how they feel ’cause remember feeling is a form of thinking, it’s not just Ti logic. I know all the time, sometimes I’m like, wow, that guy is without thought because he’s an ENFP and he’s got Ti trickster, and he’s not really thinking is more feeling.
True, but understand that like the terminology wise both ways of at Ti and Fi are both technically thinking, it’s just, they manifest in different ways. The Ti approaches the true, false direction, the Fi direction is the good, bad direction. Understand the difference. And while INFPs are focused on doing the right thing, the INTP is trying to discover what really works and do what works. It’s the difference between pragmatism and affiliative, right. Two different ways. So understand that, it’s important for INFPs to be able to be heard in that regard that their opinion matters. If an INFP feels that their opinion doesn’t matter, you know what’s going to happen? They’re just going to default to their thinking and then their demons gonna come out. Yeah, that’s gonna be really good. Well, it’s no different from an INTP. Ti hero needs to be listened to, and if no one values the thoughts of the INTP, then they’re just going to do what they value. Yeah, and then Fi demon is gonna come out and start blowing up everything that’s effective, great. And we’re going to talk about a little bit more when we talk about the house of cards example. But remember, you have to understand, INPs are absolutely critical to the success of any organization. And if it’s very people oriented, very affiliative, very movement oriented, you need to understand the INFP is where you want to go. If it’s very systems oriented, business oriented, company oriented, technology oriented, where it’s all about systems and not necessarily interest, the interest level of the movement versus the systems level of the company, then you would want an INTP for that. And remember folks, they provide the foundation. Like what happens when you pull out the foundation out from under someone, you pulled the chair out from under something, what happens? A very painful display where their ass hits the ground and their butt hurt at that point, you see what I’m saying?
Well, you basically mistreating your INPs on your teams or in your organizations or at your church, or at your movement or your charity or whatever or you overlooking them is literally the equivalent of pulling out the chair out from under yourself. Yeah, like seriously, stop doing that. Like that is really bad idea. You folks just need to understand how valuable these two types actually really are. They spend so much time thinking about every thing that they encounter that when it comes to speaking about it and understanding it, they’re the ones that listen to. Not only that to go even further, they both have extraverted intuition parent, you know what that means? Oh, they’re going to be warning you about bad things that would happen in the future. These two types literally walk around in, “I told you so land,” you know why? It’s because extraverted intuition views the intentions and the desires and the goals of other people around them as irresponsible. And these two types do not allow themselves to be irresponsible of what they want such that they almost not even, they almost do not even allow themselves to want anything because, or be motivated to do anything, because of Ni critic. It is impossible to motivate these people, taking these people to like a Tony Robbins conference is a complete total waste of money and a waste of time because they just feel like they’re being manipulated the entire time because they could see how easily the willpower of other people is easily manipulated. So, because they’re just basically immune to it, because they just automatically take it as manipulation when they’re trying to be motivated. Well, that’s not how you motivate these two people but then again, it’s like, “Well, wait a minute Mr. CS Joseph, I’m having a really hard time with the INPs in my life. And I understand that they are the foundation of my organization and my movement, and it’s like super hard to motivate them. And I need them to be productive, and I just don’t know what to do. How do I motivate them.
You say they’re unmotivatable, now it’s like, but then you also say that they’re the foundation of my firm. And I don’t know what I’m supposed to do, because it’s like a Catch-22, damned if I do, damned if I don’t. I have to motivate them but then you tell me I can’t, but then you tell me that the foundation, what do I do?” Glad you asked. Yeah, there’s a specific way of doing that. And we’re gonna get to that in a minute. So remember they are the foundation, and when you pull out the foundation out from under somebody, you pull out that chair, their butt’s gonna fall. Don’t forget folks, it doesn’t matter the movement, it doesn’t matter the company, it doesn’t matter the government, it doesn’t matter the nation. It doesn’t matter the religion, doesn’t matter the system, it doesn’t matter if a group of people come together who speak the same language, who are united, they can accomplish anything. Genesis 11:6, you might want to look that up. I mean, that’s what the tower of Babel was all about and their attempt to actually reach ascension, to reach immortality, right? Yeah, that failed them, I wonder why. Because they were divided. They became divided, they started speaking different languages, they weren’t even able to communicate with each other and the collective unconscious of man was divided up into small pieces. For more information on that, watch season 17, episode 1 here on the YouTube and on the podcast available in the playlists. But here’s the point, every single organization, doesn’t matter what it is or what it’s for, it is literally a house of cards. It’s a house of cards. It’s going to fall over one day and let me tell you, it can keep being a really strong house of cards that’s gonna go or it’s gonna come a tumbling down. And do you know how it gets called, a tumble down? You’re playing this game of Jenga, right?
If you ever played Jenga, you know we’ve got the little wooden logs you’re pulling out, and then you’re trying to keep the tower up as you’re pulling logs or whatnot. Life is like a game of Jenga, okay. Let me tell you something, the INP, doesn’t matter if it’s the INFP or the INTP, the INP is literally the most important piece in the entire tower that if you pull that piece, it will come crumbling down, okay. Your house of cards will come a tumbling down if you’re not careful, okay. You have to understand this concept of the house of cards. Oh, how does that tie into our main theme today of you reap what you sow? When you’re tilling that earth, and that sometimes requires you to make that INP uncomfortable in the tilling process, and you’re sowing seeds into them, you’re gonna reap a good harvest, right? You have to understand that that is the foundation of what you’re doing. If you pull out the foundation, the house of cards is gonna fall out. Hey, let’s use another biblical example, shall we? If you build your house upon the rock, when the rains come, right, and the flood comes, is your house gonna get wiped out? Nope, it’s gonna still stand because you built your house on the bedrock, right? The bedrock of the INPs, this is how important they are, right? They are the bedrock. But then if you want to build your house on the sand, whoa, that’s a bad idea. Whoop, there goes your house of cards, there goes your company, there goes your movement. It’s completely a total waste. You know why? Because you decided not to listen to the INTP or the INFP, you didn’t give the INFP the chance to speak their opinion. You didn’t give the INTP the opportunity to help and assist and give them recognition for it. Ugh! Ooh! Wow, yeah, that’s basically why you failed, okay.
Because these two types, which are typically ignored, you ignored them like everybody else. You took advantage of them like everybody else, or at least you made them feel like they were taken advantage of. You may not have seen it from your point of view, but that’s how they see it, wow! Oh, isn’t there this concept of love your neighbor as yourself. Or maybe the golden rule, wait a minute, what is that? Oh, treat others the way you want to be treated. If you’re a certain type, AKA one of the 16 types ’cause you are, because you’re a human, ’cause you’re watching this, guess what? You want to be treated in a certain way, you want to be treated in such a way where you and your nature is acceptable and your nature is acceptable by other people. You want to be accepted, that’s very natural for humanity, very natural for human beings. The thing is, what are you doing to accept these two types? Because these two types are some of the least accepted amongst the types because they are often ignored because of how silent they are. Do you know why they’re silent? Because they’re silently judging absolutely everything with their hero functions. And sometimes they understand that when they speak and share an opinion or share their thoughts, it can be alienating to other people. Then they do not want to create conflict, they need that harmony, why? So their Si child, their Si child can be in harmony because they don’t like conflict. So they’re not going to speak, but as Dietrich Bonhoeffer would say, ” Not to speak is to speak.” Okay, and trust me, you need to be responsible and give both of these types every opportunity to speak. And you need to listen to them, and based on their recommendations you need to execute on them.
Why? Because they have extraverted intuition parent. I’m sorry folks, but if there’s something you need to listen to is extraverted intuition parents, it is very responsible about your fate. If you’re not listening to extraverted intuition parents in terms of your fate, I’m sorry, that’s literally stupid. Like it’s bad. If you want bad advice, we can give bad advice so, and tell them not to listen to their INPs. Wow! Wow! That’s okay. Here, let’s just pull out the chair out from under everyone right now. Their INPs, they are just gonna start walking away, it’s not gonna matter anymore. Ooh, that’s effective, ooh! Yeah, that’s effective. They provide warnings. It’s very, very important you listen to their warnings. There’s a reason for that. Now I’ve just shared with you the core value, let’s get into the functions and how they work and then also like let’s also talk about how these two types have some hang-ups and how to get through those hang-ups. Because as essentially important as these two types are, they definitely have some problems in their own, just like everybody else. And if you have relationships with these types or there some techniques that these types can utilize to help get themselves out of the situation, we’re gonna be talking about that at length basically right now. So, but functionally speaking, we’re talking about differences and similarities, right? We talked a little bit about Ti hero, we talked a little bit about Fi hero. Remember Ti hero is all about the true, false, what it thinks is true or false. Whereas Fi hero is what it “believes” is good or bad. Remember Fi and Te on an axis is all about belief Belief, systems, what they believe. It’s also about opinions. Not necessarily what’s true, it’s a collection of opinions And they have, oh, 60% of my opinion or all these collective opinions say this, so this might be true, so I’m going to listen to that.
This is more likely to be true, so I want to listen to that. That’s rational thinking, but it’s not actually something based on truth, right? Whereas Ti hero is all about, if this, then this, if this is true, then this is true. If that is true, then that is true. If that is true, then that is false. So that is false, and that is false. If that is false then that is true. And they’re constantly doing that, testing everything in their mind from a logical point of view, and that allows them to arrive to true false conclusions. It’s all about what is true, false, very powerful but these two types are doing things differently. So if you don’t know the difference, if you’re an INTP or an INFP, look at how you think, right. Beliefs and opinion, or how they feel about things, they also make decisions based on their mood whereas the INTP does not make decisions based on their mood. Mood doesn’t mean anything to the INTP. Mood is everything to the INFP, be aware of that, right? So it can be an issue, okay. We’ll talk about that a little bit to hear as well. Also, because they have thinking heroes, Fi hero, Ti hero in this internal judging function, introverted judging function, it makes them the most brilliant of all the types. Yes, I recognize that we have ISFPs and INTPs out there, and they have that brilliance in terms of what’s applied to the physical environment and the physics. I mean, look at these, these paintings were done by an ISFP who is bloody brilliant in her craft. She’s an artist, her name is Raelynn. She’s a member of this community. She’s a fantastic human being and does wonderful work. And I’m very happy to have her work. And this, let me tell you folks, is genius, right? This is her form of genius, right? And as much as an INTP who can like figure out crazy ways of getting anything to work basically, because they’re very pragmatic like that, their mechanical mastery can get a car to start that wasn’t able to start before.
It’s kinda like that girl character in that “Transformers” film, Bumblebee, working on her dad’s car and finally getting it to run. And when it just seemed impossible to do so but Ti hero always finds a way with that Ni child within the ISTP. How are these types are completely different? They have metaphysical mastery. They are aware of what’s possible. They have mastery over what’s possible they’re extraverted intuition parent. And they’re able to think their way through all those possibilities, all of those fates and such that they’re able to make the fates of their fellow human beings better, which means they’re able to bring a better future to their human beings, to fellow human beings through a core interpersonal philosophy or a system A way of doing things. And that’s how it works, right? Well, they need to be supported and they need to be respected as such. These two types are brilliant, don’t forget about that, right. But just because they’re brilliant, they have some problems, so let’s talk about that. Extraverted intuition parents, great, we’ve been talking a lot about extraverted intuition parent but let’s look a little bit more on Si child. So because of extraverted intuition parent, they have introverted intuition critic which makes them basically unmotivated. And then they have Si child, which makes them at risk of being lazy and stuck in their comfort zone, especially INFPs because Fi hero can combine with Si child because if they don’t have their parents function well-developed, they’ll be like, well, I only care about what I feel about and what I care about makes me comfortable.
So they have those two types combining which can make this type probably the most lazy of all the types. And also the one type that’s mostly going to have their head in the sand. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard INFPs just make their arguments like, “Well, why are you doing that?” “Well, just because,” and I’m like, “Well, that’s no reason.” “Well, just because, just because.” like INFP is very likely to respond with just because as the reason for why, it is like, “Because I feel like it.” And it’s like, but that has no basis in evidence or they’re the people who are constantly asking everyone to cite their sources when they themselves hypocritically never cite their sources because they’re too lazy to cite their own sources. It’s so annoying INFPs, stop doing that, you’re hypocrites. I’m tired of the hypocritical behavior. If you’re gonna ask someone to cite your sources, you better be for damn sure that you’re very well read on it and that you are citing your sources too. Because that’s unfair. You’re supposed to be walking philosophers who understand the concept of a Bibliography, right? Why are you forcing everyone else around you to have a Bibliography when you yourself are not willing to do it yourself? I mean, hashtag head in the sand, like seriously get your head out of the sand, it’s really annoying. Like, it’s very annoying. Like stop, I can’t stand it.
And then INTPs, they get so stuck in their comfort zone that they just end up allowing other people to abuse them. They end up taking abuse, right. And their ESFJ subconscious leads the INTP to being turned into a doormat, okay. So you have someone who’s insanely ignorant and you have someone who allows other people to take advantage of them in their doormat, okay. Okay, and even worse, the people outside of the INPs allow the INFPs to be ignorant, allow them to be lazy and they enable the INFP and no one has the guts to criticize the INFP, right. And the same thing for the INTP, their friends allow them to be doormats. Maybe their friends are taking advantage of the INTP as well. Wow, that’s really great. It’s hard for the INTP because Ti hero is extremely, what is it? Oh, yeah, alienating. And it’s like, well, I wouldn’t have any friends at all and then they ended up getting stuck with “friends” who take advantage of them. Wow, so it’s not always the INPs fault folks, sometimes it’s external people. Could be their family, could be people at their work, who knows? It could be their significant other who is taking advantage of them. It could even be their children. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard about elderly people being taken advantage of in terms of their money or their assets or anything. And almost always, it’s these two types as elderly people being taken advantage. While the INFP elderly, they’re ignorant and we can’t teach an old dog new tricks, et cetera. There’s, a lot of that going with INFPs especially in the elderly. And then the INTP elderly person continues to be taken advantage of and treated like a doormat. It’s absolutely ridiculous, and I won’t stand for it. It is our responsibility folks, if we have INPS in our life, to make sure that we never allow that to happen to them in their old age. But it is consistent, it is sick. Wow, I have a problem with my ESTP cousin. There’s one thing he did teach me. He taught me a lot of things actually, but one of the main things, I remember, lessons that he taught me was the value of the elderly and to always respect your elders.
I didn’t have that attitude until I met him. And let me tell you, as an ESTP with Se hero, slamming Si inferior against the wall to make a point, you might want to listen. And yes, I did listen, and I immediately changed. I will never have that stupid attitude again. The elderly are to be respected, respect your elders folks especially if they’re INPs. Seriously do it, okay. They don’t deserve that, remember they’re the terra firma, right? Respect the ground you walk upon, take care of it, cultivate it, till it respectfully and responsibly. Do not take advantage of these people, they don’t deserve it. And if you do it for too long, they will screw you over and I’ll show you exactly how. So they have the curse, the curse of the comfort, the curse of the comfort zone. The comfort zone ends up basically causing a huge amount of problems between both of these types. We’ve already talked about how the INTP can be taken advantage of, we talked about how that can lead to ignorance on the part of the INFP, they have their head in the sand and they think they’re not ignorant when everyone around them really knows they are ignorant. It leads to really, really poor behaviors. We talked about recently, how… We talked about earlier, how there was this woman, for example, who with the, she had her child. The child’s diaper wasn’t changed, running around the house, the house was a clean mess and she didn’t even get any of the dishes done, there’s no groceries in the fridge, dinner is trying to be handled. And her husband comes in and walks in the door and he’s been working hard. He actually got home late, an hour late so he’s been out there for nine hours, worked really hard. And he’s like, “Hey, where’s dinner?” And then all of a sudden, guess what? He sees the INFP just sitting there on the couch, on the phone doing nothing while the kid is running a muck. And she’s just like, “Oh, I don’t care about doing anything right now.” Wow. That’s really uncaring. “Wow. Am I like so I have to do everything around here.” You know what I’m saying?
That’s a really great marriage, but if the INFP is unable such that they can get to that way. See, that’s the thing about INFPs, they can get so ignorant. Like it’s really, really detrimental, extremely detrimental to INFP children because INFP children, they can be spoiled more than any of the other types. Because the way they look at life, if they’ve never experienced it before it’s not real to them. For example, I actually got the opportunity to come to know an INFJ recently. Fantastic individual, someone that I met through my day job, great guy. He’s got an INFP girlfriend and she never learned how to drive. And she actually had her parents drive her around even up to the point where she was 23 years old. And she was expecting other people to take her places. And she never learned to drive herself. And he is an INFJ ’cause INFJs usually get into relationships with “projects,” et cetera. He ended up getting in a relationship with her and it seemed to be going pretty well except for the fact that he had to drive her everywhere all the time. Wow, that’s like totally lazy. Really annoying, right? He got so frustrated with it that had to provide an ultimatum. He had to provide an ultimatum and that ultimatum is what saved their relationship. See, this is one of the things is why it’s important for men to stand up to their women, and literally put them on notice and have personal standards and personal boundaries such that you’d be like, “Hey, if you do not get your driver’s license within X amount of time, our relationship is over and you will never see me again.”
Guess what? That INFP, they got their driver’s license like that. Wasn’t a problem anymore. After driving her around for a year to the point where she didn’t get her license until she was like 24 years old. Ridiculous. Why is it everyone out there doesn’t have the guts to criticize the INFP? You provide that ultimatum that they need in order to get them to move. Oh, you didn’t know the ultimatum isn’t just applied to INFPs, but it also applies to INTPs. Of course, it does. Because imagine that INTP who stuck in their mother’s basement playing video games, without a job, and they’re like 22 years old. And just like, man, you know what I’m saying? They need to be given an ultimatum. I’d be like telling their mother, “Hey, you need to like evict them immediately.” “Ooh, what if he gets homeless?” Good, good. Because then he’ll actually learn something, he’ll have to learn to survive, and he’ll end up anything skills really quick to survive and be able to take care of himself and figure out life. See, oftentimes I actually recommend to INTPs specifically, “Hey, you might want to like stop. If you’re unfulfilled in your life, stop your job, quit your job and just move to a country where you don’t even speak their language for six months and try to survive and see if you can.” I guarantee you will emerge a much more amazing greater person ever with a lot more skills and a lot more activity. Shoving down as much new life experience down that to Si child, tilling that ground, tilling that to terra firma, you know what I’m saying? By tilling that ground, they become something so much more, so much more. And there’s no excuse, there’s no excuse for them whatsoever. So based on that, what do you do? There is multiple methodologies to apply to motivating these types to change. One of the reasons why people have such a hard time with these types, it’s because these types are literally the immovable object, right? And it requires the unstoppable force to even remotely get any movement or any progress out of these people because they will just be these hard rocks sitting on the hill and not changing because, “Oh, my comfort zone is much important. That’s so much more important and I’m not going to expand my own horizons. And I expect everybody else in my life to expand my horizons for me. And I’m just going to keep my head in the sand and be ignorant, or I’m just going to not grow because I mean, I went to college and I got my degree but I don’t have to do this ever again. So I’m not gonna grow anymore, I’m not going to read any books. I’m not going to be my own person.” Wow, okay. Wait a minute, they’re supposed to be the foundation that our movements and our businesses are built upon yet they have this problem. Wow, the curse of the comfort zone.
Getting stuck in the comfort zone to the point where they allow other people to abuse them or they allow themselves calls to become ignorant. Ignorant and worthless, and having incorrect beliefs and belief systems, where what they believe is not even remotely close to the truth. Wow, why do you think it’s so important for INFPs to read? They need to read and they need to read, and they need to read every single day for the rest of their lives, and preferably nonfiction. I mean, reading just fiction will keep them stuck in their comfort zone because they’re comfortable with fiction. They need to be reading nonfiction to develop that philosophy that’s supposed to be the foundation for a movement that an NFJ could take and execute to bring about world’s change. And yet the INFP is the one type at all the types that complains about the state of the world more than anyone. Yet, they’re the ones who have stand up and make it happen by reading every day for example, what the hell? So different INTPs, they need to be helping other people. Did you know INTPs, that if you are focused on helping with your Fe inferior, that you will become smarter. It’s not about motivating you to do what you want, “You want to go to college,” No, they don’t want to go to college, they just want to help. You need to be focused on helping others. If you’re focusing on helping you will become smarter, you’ll become insanely intelligent, their Ti hero. Why aren’t you spending your time helping other people? Why are you being selfish INTPs? Stop, stop being selfish. It’s not about you, right? So let’s talk about that a little bit more. How do you motivate an INP? How do you get them out of their comfort zone? How do you get them to change? For the most part, it’s kind of similar and then it diverts. We’re gonna talk about in a second.
You have it to go, first forward the parent function, if it’s developed, hopefully it is. Here’s the parent function. What do you tell the INP? You provide, we already talked about it, an ultimatum. You tell them that they will be unwanted unless they change and you provide an ultimatum. If that doesn’t work, you move on to their child function next. And then you tell the child function, I am taking away your comfort privileges. All of your creature comforts are going away. All of your privileges are going away. You take all that away, well, I’m here to make you uncomfortable to cause you to change. Guess what though? INPs can be so pig-headed because they’re like, well, you’ve never done that to me before. I think you’re just bluffing. And you know what? They’ll still stay in their mother’s basement, they’ll still have their head in the sand. They won’t change. If it gets to that point, then you need to take drastic action. And then you go for the juggler, the inferior function. The inferior function is known as the juggler, right? That’s the place in the person’s mind where someone is most sensitive, okay. Because you’re already are dealing with the fact that their critic will not allow themselves to want anything because you can’t just go up to an INP and be like, “Hey, you will want to change.” And hire Tony Robbins and hire Gary Vaynerchuk and hire Owen Cook and hire Neil Strauss. I don’t care who it is, whatever extraverted intuition here you want, you’re not going to get and I critic to budge. It literally is the immovable object. You cannot force an INP to want anything You can make that Si child uncomfortable. You could settle upon them duties and responsibilities and obligate that Si child, as you should, in an attempt to motivate them to change. But if you can’t do that, well, there’s only one thing you could do, you go after the inferior. Remember you make them realize that they’re going to be unwanted. You make them uncomfortable, you take away those creature comforts or you obligate them. But if that fails folks, if all else fails, what do you do? What do you do to INPs? Let me tell you what you do. Now, it’s so fine, it really makes my Se demon just like, oh, yeah! Just want to like, twist that knife, you know what I’m saying?
So Fe inferior, target Fe inferior. How do you do that? You guilt the INTP. You basically prove to the INTP that they are a bad person who is a burden, who is harming other human beings because of their poor comfort zone, cursive comfort zone behavior, their laziness, their selfishness, their creature comfort. Their comfort is more important to them than anyone else. Wow. You guilt them people, you guilt them. And you guilt that INTP, I guarantee you you’ll see action taken as soon as it’s been proven to them that they literally are being a bad person, that they are actually harming other people with their poor behavior. I guarantee you. Ah! But you know what? That’s not really gonna work on an INFP, you have to use a different strategy. You have to target the Te inferior, and you know how you target Te inferior? Oh, you, and this is one of my favorite things, you shame them. Yes, you shame them. You expose the fact to all of the INFP’s friends, the people they respect the most or the people they have closest to them, their significant others, their children, their family, you expose all of their selfishness to other people so that those other people start thinking less of the INFP. ‘Cause the INFP is all about perception and reputation management. “Hey, I don’t have to be good as long as I look good. Hey, if I’m looking good, I mean, what’s the point? You know what I’m saying? I look good, everyone thinks I’m good. I don’t have to be good, as long as people think it I’m good so I don’t have to worry about it.” Ah, but if you expose them, if you expose the truth of their horrible selfish, ignorant comfort zone behavior, oh yeah, to everyone and you do it in a public manner and you as public as possible, the INFP all of a sudden will be motivated to change because they’ll be like, oh, oh, my reputation is absolute crap, maybe I should fix that. I can’t allow people to think less of me. I can’t allow that. Oh yeah, oh yeah. All of a sudden they’re motivated to change, oh yeah. That’s the fastest way to get a habit. Of course, remember if you’re gonna go after their inferior functions, don’t forget folks, they may hate you for it and they’ll never forget it. Just understand that you may permanently burn the bridge, but at least you’ve caused them to change for the better.
Maybe 20 years down the road, they may actually thank you for criticizing them. They may thank you for guilting them, they may thank you for shaming them. Don’t forget INFPs, if given the opportunity to shame you, I will and I will enjoy every second of it as sadistic as possible as I can get it, I will enjoy it. I would enjoy shaming you. And you want to know how? Read Jon Ronson’s book, “So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed.” It’s on Amazon Audible, it’s an audible original. Jon Ronson, guess what? He is an INFP, and he’s actually narrating the book on the audio book himself. You might want to read that INFPs, because let me tell you people like me out there exist and we will shame you if you get stuck in your comfort zone. Because remember, you are supposed to be the foundation, that terra firma that any movement for positive change in this world, we are supposed to have your core interpersonal philosophy. But how the hell are we going to get it if you’re too busy with your head in the sand, playing on your phone, sitting on the couch, being absolutely worthless. How is anything gonna change? You complain over and over and over about how bad it is in the world, and yet you do nothing about it. You hypocrites, stop doing that. You need to wake up and I will shame you. Now you can avoid the shame if you read every day, if you develop what Si child needs the most, self-discipline. Develop self-discipline, okay.
Because if you develop self-discipline, you can get guide people so much better. You can guide their fate, you can understand what other people want. Both of you understand what other people want, what other people desire, other people’s goals and you can make suggestions to them. You can make warnings, okay. You folks are supposed to be the most brilliant of all the types, what are you doing? Are you being a waste? Are you spending it on your own feelings and your own mood? Are you spending it on what makes you comfortable? What are you doing for everybody else? Why is it always about you all the time INFPs? Why is it about you? Huh? Same thing for INTPs, you think you’re so smart but you’re not even bothering to help anybody. What value do you have? Seriously INTPs, what value do you have if you’re not helping anyone? Let me give you guys some good examples. I have an INTP on my team. She’s amazing. Emily has been with us for a long time and she’s definitely outside of her comfort zone. We are constantly throwing new stuff at her all the time but she is focused on helping us and our team here at CSJ such that has made her grow in intelligence over time, and she is brilliant. And she is an amazing person to work with on the team, and also on our Mod team as Head Modsy here at CSJ on the CSJ discord. She is fantastic. So shout out to Nova and everything that she does for this community, it is absolutely exquisite to have her on the team. It is an unbelievable. Shout out to Nova, we really, really appreciate. And then there’s people, they’re like Ray and Domes who are INFPs who are consistently making sure that they’re not ignorant, that they’re staying out of their comfort zone. And Domes has been great, and Ray have been amazing on the Modsy team as well and providing all their other benefits to the CSJ community.
And I always ask them, “Hey, what’s your opinion?’ They do not often speak up, but when we’re in team meetings, when we’re in situations like that I’m asking them, “Hey, what’s your opinion? Yo Domes, what’s your opinion on this?” Or, “Ray, what’s your opinion on this?” I always ask them for their opinion, you have to ask them for opinion. Why would you not? Why would you also not accept the help from an INTP? Why would you not listen to the INTP? You know what I’m saying. Like, because if I stopped listening to Nova, ha, if I stopped asking the opinion of Domes, ha, what would happen? Oh, that’s right. The chair will be pulled out right from under me. Oh, why is that? Because they are the foundation, okay. These folks are the foundation with which this community and this business actually stands upon. Shout out to Nova and Domes and Ray for being awesome INPs on our team. They really do provide that solid ground with which we, this community are able to stand upon. Without that foundation, we would not really have a future, Ne parent. It’s absolutely important that we have them, that we have this, that they’re supported, that we listened to them. Because here’s what’s going to happen folks, here’s what’s going to happen if you ignore them, here’s what’s going to happen. They care so much, there’s being so helpful but if I or anyone else does not give them the recognition that they deserve, the appreciation that they deserve, guess what’s gonna happen? They stopped caring and Fi demons gonna come out, and they’re just gonna do what they feel like doing. And then they become apathetic, the INTP becomes apathetic. And it’s all about what they feel like doing because obviously no one else cares what they’ve done for anything else, and because they don’t care, because they don’t value that, they are gonna, why should I care?
So I’m not going to care, why bother? And then all of a sudden that help, that foundation gets pulled out from under everybody and everything in the house of cards comes tumbling down. Interesting how that works, interesting, right? Standing over here, if you’re not listening to the opinion of the INTP, it’s like, great, no one cares about what I think, no one wants to listen to my input, no one values my opinion. I don’t feel good about this. Why isn’t anyone want to listen to my opinion? Okay, fine. Well then we’re just gonna default to my opinion, and then outcomes the ISTP demon and it just starts to deconstruct, because ISTP is all about constructing, but ISTP superego is all about deconstructing. Deconstruction becomes, or destruction, is a problem. And you want to see the one type that caused the most destruction, it’s the ISTP superego. Watch out, right? If you want to see the type that’s the most apathetic, it’s the ISFP. The ISFP superego is like, eh, you know we are just gonna do what I want to do. I don’t care, I don’t care anymore. I care about what I feel like, I care about my mood, I care about what I want to do. Screw y’all, I don’t care. And all of a sudden they disappear, the INTP goes poof, and they’re gone. And it’s like, well, where did they go? Gee, I wonder where they went. Maybe you should have showed them some appreciation for once. Maybe you should’ve thanked them for once. Maybe you should’ve listened to them for once folks. Do not neglect your INPs, they do not deserve it. Provided they’re not in their comfort zone and not stuck in their comfort zone, provided they’re not being ignorant and have their head in the sand, provided that they’re continuing to be helpful. Why are you ignoring them like everybody else does? They are the foundation with which you stand upon for your organization, for your business, for your family, for your church, for your community, for your government.
There’s a story accompanied by Behringer, by the name of Behringer, a music group. They had a rogue employee, an INTP, I believe he’s an INTP who worked in their data center. And well, that data center exploded. They almost lost the company, and I ended up getting the call in the middle of the night to try to save that company. And Uli Behringer, who is the CEO of that company was freaking out about that and how to solve this IT problem, trying to get SAP back. I watched him fire executive after executive after executive, as they couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again after this rogue employee basically, allegedly destroyed their infrastructure. I don’t have all the specific details on that situation should, ’cause I was kept in the dark for a lot of it. So take it with many grains of salt, but that company still exists today. Thank God we were able to survive, but guess what happened? Oh, that INTP and their IT team was neglected and unappreciated. And guess what happened? Pulled out that chair out from under, and you know what? It’s possible that INTP didn’t do anything at all. It’s possible the INTP, Ne parent just saw like, “Hey, there’s all these problems that are gonna take down this data center in a few months, you know what? I’m just gonna decide not to do anything about it.” He probably didn’t even do anything malicious, and then all of a sudden it’s just like up, here comes the waves, here comes the flood. Well, I’m not gonna tell anyone, I’m not gonna bother telling one because they don’t appreciate my help anyway. So I’m just gonna let it happen, and sure enough crash. And the amazing music products from Behringer music group for example, could have never have existed. All like that, because the INTP was ignored.
Take that story with a few grains of salt but you get the gist, right? It is so important. I don’t care if you’re a Te parent or a Te hero. If you’re running an organization or a business, do not neglect your INPs, and you folks, you TE parents and you Te heroes are the most likely to ignore them. Did you know that? Did you know that folks? Because you get so focused on numbers and systems that you forget about the people that work at your organization, and these people are people and they are the foundation with what your business is able to exist in the first place, or your movement is able to exist in the first place. How are you going to do this? You can’t do it without them, so why do you ignore them? Why? Because if you are apathetic towards the INTP, they’re going to be apathetic towards you. If you’re gonna have your head in the sand and you’re gonna be ignorant about the INFP, the INFP will also be ignorant, okay. You reap what you sow. You reap what you sow with both these types. You want to have a better future, you better till that ground and you better sow. We talk about the curse of their comfort zone, how do you till that ground? Make sure that you give them the healthy ultimatums, tell them, warn them, you’re gonna be unwanted if you behave this way, okay? Make them uncomfortable, expand their horizons, till that ground. Fill them with books and knowledge that they need to be successful. Make them comfortable with expanding their horizons and developing good, positive, healthy habits. That’s what introverted sensing child is all about. It’s about habits folks, habits. These two types are habitual. Stop trying to get them to want things and help them develop healthy habits. Habits is everything, especially in the workplace, especially in the family. Had that woman sitting on the couch, INFP woman sitting on the couch with their phone and their kid running around destroying the house. You think that would have happened if she had healthy habits? Where do healthy habits come from folks? Oh, that’s from self-discipline, proper self-discipline. These two types need self-discipline. They need to be disciplined. Parents if you’re raising an INP, discipline these children, It’s not about giving them choices, they need to be told what they should do, obligate them, right? Make sure that, and if necessary guilt them if you have to, if necessary, shame them if you have to. That’s what these two types need. This is how they are different from each other folks, is how they are different. Very, very important. So we talked about Ne parent and how they’re aware of the future, and how they provide warnings.
We talk about the comfort zone of the child, we talked about how INTPs are afraid of making other people feel bad, which is why guilting them is an effective way but a dangerous way to motivate them. We talked about Te inferior and how it’s about how other people think and the opinions of others because they want people to have high opinions of them. They want other people to think highly of them at all times because they draw their self-worth from Fi hero based on how people think about Te inferior. And the more they read, the more they can take charge and be that ESTJ subconscious to help people think about things properly and develop that professoral academic role, where they can speak their core interpersonal philosophy to others through their ESTJ subconscious such that it creates a foundation for a movement that can inspire world change and influence. Huh? Wonder how that works? Or how supportive and helpful the INTP gets and become the most supportive support structure for your business, for your organization, for your family. ‘Cause the INTP will always be there. Oh gosh, they’re so reliable. That solid ground, make sure you till that earth well folks. And then INTPs, they have Te nemesis. They worry that everyone around them is lacking intelligence, sometimes to the point where they just want to do everything themselves, and not get any help from anyone else because they don’t trust other people. I mean, I had an INTP coworker awhile back who did this for me, who really, really helped me out. Yeah, that was very important. And he gave me the room to fail, he allowed me to fail and then he offered help. INTP, stop interrupting people or stop ignoring people.
They usually just ignore people in their failures and not help. Whereas the ISTP is going to interrupt people before they fail, whereas the INTP is just gonna be completely indifferent. You have indifference and then you have ignorance. Those are the main hang-ups of these two types. Yes, we have their vices, right, where you have indifference versus treachery and that’s a whole different ball game but it’s like the INFP is trying to find so many things high enough to be loyal enough to, whereas the INTP is trying to find someone that they don’t have to be indifferent to, right. That is an issue, right. That apathy is a problem, okay. We already talked heavily about Ni critic. Se trickster, folks help these people trust themselves, make themselves presentable, help them give good experiences to other people, help them with their car mechanics, help them in these areas. That’s a major, major hang up that they have. Sometimes they’re dropping stuff, sometimes they’re just not able to focus on things properly. They have a really hard time focusing, especially in the moment because they live so much in the past and so much in the future. It’s important that you support them in these areas. They’re not perfect, we’re not perfect, no one is perfect. Remember humanity ultimately is unholy, unholy being, incomplete and lacking everything. Whereas all of humanity combined in one place, all of their cognition and that mega consciousness that we talk about in season 17, episode 1 is holy or complete and lacking nothing. It’s different, but mankind in order to actually enjoy life and understand where the value of life and where life is going, and to actually really find what is actually meaningful in life, we have to be incomplete because we enjoy it that much more. If we’re totally complete, well, it can get pretty boring folks.
And these two types are no exception. Recognize the core importance of both these types. And we have discussed their demon at length, and we discussed their superego is at length so far. Anyway, what is the point? Remember, these two types, so in summary, these two types are the foundation. They are the terra firma, they are the solid ground, they are the immovable object that you get to stand upon for your family, for your business, for your movement or your organization. Doesn’t matter, these two types make it happen. They really provide that scaffolding as well as that solid ground, that foundation that you could build a company or an idea or a movement upon. And that’s amazing. But while that may be true, and they need to be respected as such, that solid ground that they are needs to be properly tilled and sowed and to get good results. Otherwise, you’re looking at indifference and apathy as well as ignorance and these types having their head in the sand, getting stuck in their comfort zone, getting so selfish that they don’t even realize how selfish they are. They don’t even realize how far gone they are. They have to be woken up. And you do that by making sure that they understand that they’ll be unwanted, you make them uncomfortable, you utilize guilt, utilize shame and you provide ultimatums. That’s how they grow, because ultimately folks you get back from INPS what you put into them, okay? It’s that simple. It’s almost like they’re coin operated, right? Folks, the bottom line is this, when it comes to INTPs and INFPs, while they’re very similar, they’re also very different but at the end of the day, you reap what you sow.
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