What are the Cognitive Transitions of ESTJs?
What are the Cognitive Transitions of ESTJs?
Hey guys, it’s CS Joseph with CS Joseph dot life welcoming all your ego hackers to our season 22, season 22 Episode One, this is only available through our email, that’s the only way you can get access to these particular lectures. I’m gonna try to make these lectures a little bit shorter than usual. And we’re gonna be focusing on cognitive transitions. So this is, what are the cognitive transitions for the ES TJ.
So this is episode one. And yeah. I apologize, though, that it has taken way too long to get these out to you. But it’s been, it’s been a while haven’t really had the opportunity to do these haven’t really understood how to go about doing these.
And given that they’re going to be a little bit shorter. Not going to be investing too much in the production of them. As you can tell we’re actually filming on my iPhone is because kind of getting all spur the moment with filming these and just getting the information out there. Because they kind of need to be done quickly.
You know, and right now my studio is a mess. I’m kind of just trying to keep things a little bit organized after my move. And I don’t exactly have the ability to pull up my whiteboard right now as you can see it back there. So we’re just gonna make it work, because that’s what I do.
I’m an E and TP and I just do what works, right? Not necessarily doing the right thing, right. So anyway, so let’s talk about es TJ es es TJ is our are the overseer, their direct initiating control, according to their interaction style, which is structure. They’re all about providing structure or needing structure, taking charge being in charge, leading, they’re very good at middle management. And another thing that they handle really well, is keeping things under control and reducing chaos as much as possible.
Their virtue is serenity, their vices, chaos, they can be really, really, really chaotic, if they don’t have things under control, and they just let loose of all self discipline, or they can keep things under control very well, through self discipline, which is pretty fantastic. Not going to lie. So yeah, there’s plenty of, you know, different opportunities. So with that in mind.
So that’s why they’re amazing at middle management, always heavy as TJs as your middle management, they’re really good. They’re also really good at HR, following specific processes, because they just want they’re just workhorses. They just want to be told what to do. And they need to know what you want in order for them to know what to do.
But they also take their reputation very seriously. They want people to think highly of them. But they’re a little bit sensitive in terms of how they feel about themselves. Sometimes they walk around being afraid that they’re a bad person.
Fair enough. And I’ve said all these things before, and I understand that but it’s important to provide you know, some kind of foundation right there temperament wise their guardians. So the past focused duty based protectors, very systematic, very affiliative folks that are not doing the right thing, but they like following a system or doing things in terms of systems. That’s another aspect of what they do.
Also, with that in mind, they’re very concrete so they focus on the what is what if scenarios don’t really mean much to them, it’s not really real to them, although their expert intuition child’s can make them come off, you know, from like a third cognitive function. It can make them come off like someone is very abstract, when in reality situation is now the very what is focused and we’ve seen this multiple times before. Classic es TJ would definitely be Barack Obama, for example. You know, as a way of putting it so yeah.
Anyway, cognitive transitions for ESP js. So ES TJ is they have four sides of the mind, just like every other side and you have your ego. You have your subconscious. You have your unconscious and you have your super ego.
But how how to actually traverse these four sides of the mind because you’re basically four different human beings. At the same time, four separate human beings And based on that, it’s like, okay, well, if I, if I’m basically for human beings and one head, you know, how do I balance that? How do I manage that? How do I grow? Don’t forget, like, in order to, like reach nirvana or enlightenment, you have to reach a state of integration, right, where you have all four sides of your mind integrated. So you have complete harmony and no longer holding any form of self conflict, right. It’s really being at peace with oneself, it’s really obtaining inner peace.
And that’s what Inner peace is all about. The thing is, is that, you know, traditionally, you know, from a Buddhist perspective, people think that inner peace is not what it is. And really, all it is, is just the four sides of your mind no longer be in conflict with each other. And you yourself having the ability to access any of these four sides of the mind, at will, for any reason, and gain the full benefits of each side of your mind without having any damage to yourself or any other, you know, human being in the process.
So there’s, there’s a lot of a lot of different reasons for that. But again, it really comes down to capability and ability, like how much ability does one have how much capability or ability can one extract from one’s mind? Right? You know, because for, like, for example, in your, in your ego, when you’re going into your subconscious, it’s like, okay, am I am I going in the opposite direction, right? Am I going in a direction that I shouldn’t go anymore, right. And these are all very important. Because you’re going you’re, you’re being you’re becoming your polar opposite, right? Whereas you know, with your shadow, you’re becoming your shadow, it’s more of, it’s kind of something similar to you, but they still are somewhat opposed to what you are.
And again, doing the unwillingly makes somebody immature, right. Because remember, as you develop the different sides of your mind, you become something better, something different. Developing your subconscious means you’re going to become happier. Developing your unconscious, or your shadow means you’re going to become more mature.
Developing your super ego means you’re going to become less sinful, less demonic. And to actually become more and shellac, or more holy, we would we’d say, you know, like complete lacking nothing within yourself within your mind as a human being. So in reality, and no, I’m not saying you’re gonna earn yourself salvation or Nirvana, you know, like, in such a way where your soul would be saved from impending doom, etc. That’s not it’s not about that.
It’s all about constant consistent improvement, like from a you know, Kaizen point of view, but it’s like the personal Kaizen, it’s the the ability for you to become a continued better being indefinitely. It’s not about being perfect, folks, everyone understands or maintains it’s about being perfect, but it’s not about being perfect at all. It’s about understanding yourself, it’s about knowing yourself, knowing your flaws, and then seeking consistent growth and consistent improvement indefinitely. And this is what happens when you become an integrated human being.
But how do you become integrated? Well, you get you become integrated by gaining practice, with cognitive transitioning, and practice was using the other side’s your mind instead of just always being in your ego at all times. Now, a lot of people are like, Oh, the ego is a problem out there. You know, no, the ego is not the problem. And I’ve said this in season 17, episode two, know, it is not the ego is not the issue, that people it’s really comes down to, you know, how are people using their minds appropriately? And are they using their minds properly? The answer that question is no, there really isn’t.
I mean, just look at SPS, they just want to sit around in their slot machines and press the button over and over and over again, like machines themselves, instead of actually thinking or having some kind of strategy. And whereas you play a game like poker, while that’s not necessarily the case, there is actually a lot of strategy and fault in poker, and you’re actually competing against fellow human beings in a game that yes, it has a luck factor, but still, you can make some wise decisions and still win and win big, right, a lot, a lot more different. But then that requires, you know, some kind of intuitive or intuition. capabilities, which let’s be honest, SPS kind of lacks, they’re more comfortable just playing the slot machines when they’re at the casino, right? Well, an integrated human being would not necessarily have that issue.
09:56 So let’s talk about cognitive transitions and How does it impact an ES TJ? Is TJ is, you know, their their subconscious is the INFP, which is very philosophical. And then they also have their shadow, which is the ISTP. And then they have their super ego, which is the ENFJ. You know, like when they go demon mode, it’s like, Oh, I’m gonna teach you a lesson you’re never gonna forget.
Or, you know, because I’m never gonna forget this year Sure, his house never gonna forget this, either. You know what I mean? Then they’re, they’re teaching people lessons, you know, lots of people lessons, they’re teaching entire organizations and entire schools lessons, for some reason, and they’re willing to, like, take down an entire school and harm a bunch of people simultaneously, because quantity, Trump’s quality, if I hurt as many people as I can, with my super ego, I could feel good that I got my revenge or, you know, and it’s like, okay, wow, that’s really effective. Their little es TJ, thank you. Thank you for trying to hurt as many people as you possibly can to make a point.
You know, that’s real beautiful there. Well, he has t J’s, there’s a lot of challenges. They have a lot of challenges that they have to get through. And it’s not.
It’s not exactly ideal, you know, and one of those challenges. Well, challenges themselves really come at a point, you know, as a result of developing their gateway functions. So what are the gateway functions? Remember, the gateway functions are the hero function, the Inferior function, the aspirational function and the demon function? I mean, it’s not the Nemesis function, excuse me, there’s the third gateway. So hero, inferior nemesis, demon.
Alright, so those are the four gateway functions. Now, the first gateway function, it’s almost like a freebie, because that’s your hero function. It’s the gateway into your ego. And that gateways development usually completes on its own around adolescence, right? So around adolescence, your mind already chooses, okay, hey, this is my hero function.
This is my ego, my ego is solidified. Now, you know, and then that means like, your super ego is finally starting to take shape, because your ego has taken shape. And that’s why people have a hard time with teenagers, right? Well, it’s no different with ESP J’s. So, from that standpoint, it’s like okay, well, what do we do then? Like, what’s what’s going to happen? You know, terms of ES TJ said, well, te hero is their first gateway function, and it unlocks the rest of the access to the rest of their ego, you know, the first side of their mind.
That’s great. The next version is the second gateway, which is the Inferior function. And then as it’s developed over time, you can gain access to the subconscious and then the ES TJ can literally morph into the INFP which is kind of interesting can see this come out. Within es TJ is all the time because when they can be very academic focus, just like INFP czar even though es TJ is just really want to be that beach volleyball athlete or that cycling athlete or bobsledding athlete or skeleton or the luge athlete, you know, pick whatever event at the Olympics because the Olympics are crawling with the ISTJ competitors.
And while they wouldn’t mind being that Olympic athlete in a lot of cases, they also take a very, very, very serious streak for academics, academics, and athleticism is everything to an ES TJ, this is why a lot of our school systems in the United States of America are actually built around the ES TJ. And that’s why the ES TJ ends up being the most successful out of all the types. So it’s why the ES TJ male, or the ESC J female, but mostly the male and a lot of cases is considered the ideal man by United States of America, SJ societal standards, right? That’s really frustrating, especially for people like me. I mean, I’m an NTP and I have a lot of feminine energy.
And instead, I just get to write it as someone who’s weird and not taken seriously. And then lo and behold, later, I ended up ruling the world, you know, and I’m saying, Where are those es T J’s, all right. They’re working for me, instead of, you know, thinking that they’re on top. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard es TJ is telling me that, you know, they’re living life backwards.
They have all their fun at the beginning of their life, and they don’t have any fun towards the end of their life. And I mean, well, they I mean, they get lazy over time, you start developing that INFP subconscious, you know, and from an inferior function, point of view. You know, that can be that can be a serious issue. So yeah, let’s let’s talk about that.
A little bit more. So the Inferior function, it’s what a person’s insecurity is, you know, and they become these ESD j’s are insecure about their self worth, you know, I don’t feel good about myself, I’m afraid I’m a bad person. And they really force themselves to do the good thing, or force themselves to do the right thing as often as they can. And sometimes they kind of do that a little too much, or they don’t do that enough.
Eventually, though, that as they grow, and if they don’t grow, then they’re this is going to happen to them and midlife crisis, where they’re just going to have to become the INFP. And really emphasize academics and philosophy. This is why often the ISTJ is in midlife, go and get additional training, or professional training or vocational training or just something else where they have a career change, because they just don’t know what to do. They absolutely don’t know what to do.
And it’s a consistent issue for them. So, so with that being said, how do they, how do they get through that? How do they deal with that? Well, they have to aspire, they have to come to the come to terms the fact that they actually are a good person, and that many people think of them this way, as a good person, and then they can aspire with their eye fi inferior such that such that, then they start discovering the need to develop their own core, personal inner philosophy through their INFP subconscious. This is why most ISTJ friends I know have studied the humanities in the classics, you know, Socrates, Plato had practice, etc, Aristotle, and even Confucius in some cases, and they really, they really emphasize philosophy. And I don’t, it’s so common in me is TJs, who are professors because they’re aspiring with their INFP subconscious as they’re transitioning right.
Now, granted, you know, if someone comes up to them and tells them a bad person, they’re gonna be put into their subconscious, unwillingly, and that can be a very, you know, painful experience. Remember, the Inferior function, since is aware of persons insecurity exists, if you hit it too hard, it’s going to create hatred, it will create hatred in the person. And, and that would be a problem, you know, having to deal with the fact that this person hates you, basically. And that’s what happens, you know, or the ESC J can willingly cognitive transition, but only after learning how to aspire, with their si inferior, right, where they just accept that I’m a good person, I know enough about life that I actually have a philosophy that I can offer to human beings, with my INFP subconscious.
I know offering them that philosophy, and I am becoming a powerful academic, and I am able to become brilliant as results. Based on everything that I’ve read, and everything I’ve done. This is why reading is so important that is TJs. And for their own personal growth.
The thing is, though, is that oftentimes these teachings are too lazy to even do that. And believe it or not, ESP j’s are some of the laziest of all the types, and they know that they’re lazy, and because they’re lazy, everything starts turning into chaos around them. And why is chaos their vice? Well, it’s because they’re lazy. And they just give into that Si, si Lupe, and they just start becoming this lazy person, and they don’t get anything done.
And because of that, their philosophy becomes their laziness instead of having a proper philosophy of philosophy as useful or, or helpful for human growth and change on a on a macro level for our race, or maybe it could be their community, et cetera. I mean, this is how he is TJs are supposed to be contributing. So for the beginning of the life that the star athlete and then at the end of their life are this amazing philosopher, and people start I mean, it’s kind of like you can’t even get better than that. Like I guess like Athens as a as a city state.
is literally the ES TJ it’s almost like Athena herself as an ES TJ, super strong, powerful athletes competitor in the beginning of life, and later in life, this amazing, powerful philosopher, able to change people’s thinking and get them thinking about proper things. And this has happened through the mastery of the second gateway function, which is for them f5 f5 Verrier their sense of morals Oh, wow. It is appalling. It’s absolutely nuts today.
So Be that as it may. The ES TJ has the other challenge, which is getting over the worry which comes from the third way gateway function, which is their Nemesis function. And this is where they worry about whether or not they’re smart enough or intelligent enough or whether they can contribute in a situation 19:50 and and this is what causes them to constantly you know, go to other people find out other people think or increase their status, etc. And then they have to really find a bunch of research and a bunch of research point or a bunch of reference points.
And from a reference point point of view. While that could be very useful to ESP js, it’s not necessarily the most useful, because for example, let’s say they’re looking at the subject, they don’t know the truth about a subject, so they gotta go find it, right. Well, the problem is it doing so? The problem is, is that whether or not something is true or not, they’re going they’re very likely to follow popular opinion. And they’ll look up 10 different reference points on a particular subject.
Let’s say it’s 10 different blog posts, and whatever the majority of what the people say if there’s people who agree amongst those blog posts, they’re more likely to believe the people who agree than those that disagree. This is why when I meet he is TJs, who are talking to me about concepts like Randy and objectivism which actually met one one time he actually it’s a bumper sticker on the back of his exterra is black exterra. And it says Who is John Galt on the back of his exterra I immediately have no choice but to listen because something like that is extremely rare. He is TJs who es T js, who are defending reindeer in objectivism of all things are, it’s definitely something completely rare because that is that is very fringe thinking it’s not, that is not common.
And it’s just it’s amazing to me, because of how uncommon that level that area of thinking is. Now I’m not saying I’m a proponent of Randian objectivist. I’m just saying like when I start hearing es TJ is talking about Randy and objectivism I immediately interested in I have to find out more about this person, because I’m like, this is different, you know. But that ti Nemesis worries about the truth, it’s constant worrying about what’s true or false.
And because of that, they have to go and do a lot of research. But again, there’s risk of that research there. However, over time, as they learn more and read more, and they just, they’re able to gather more information, then they’re able to create a philosophy based on what they’ve read. And they’re able to develop what they believe is the truth, such that and it’s so refined in such a way that it could actually be true it is it is very possible that it could actually be be true because that belief is so refined over time.
And ti Nemesis actually requires that level of verification. So if the Nemesis function turns into an ally function of their hero, they’re able to helpfully access the Nemesis, a gateway into their unconscious. Now, how do you do that? This is the difference between somebody who is who was a mature es TJ versus an immature es TJ, here’s how you spot the difference. I’m not sure he is TJ who has really good unconscious development, and they’re able to transition into their ISTP unconscious in a healthy way.
Those es T J’s, guess what folks, they verify. They verify their beliefs, they go out of their way to verify everything. And that’s, and they’ll trust what people say, but then they’ll verify because the ISTP subconscious is all about verification of reality. I want to know what’s real.
That’s literally the ISTP unconscious, I want to know what’s real, show me the money, show me what’s real. If you’re not going to tell me that I’m gonna go find out and I’m going to verify literally everything that you’ve just said. Which is amazing, because that helps them do additional research, and then that contributes to them developing their core interpersonal philosophy. Now granted, because of their worry about what’s true or false, they can get stuck in their shadow.
And that could be an immature ISTP, which could lead to inaccurate behavior, behaviors of theirs that are inaccurate or could potentially cause a problem. That is definitely a risk. And it’s always something to just be aware of. You know, with when it comes to ESP J’s, if they’re not verifying what they believe on their own, they are basically immature.
And if they take what other people say, at face value, they’re gonna live in an accurate life. I mean, it just goes down when they’re trying to build something when they’re working on a car, for example, because he is TJs they can become really big gearheads, just like ISTPs can’t. They’re gonna make some assumptions. And they’re gonna be it’s gonna be based on beliefs.
It’s a belief based system of fixing a car. And that’s not exactly the best way it’s not necessarily accurate. So they’re going to make mistakes, you’re going to have to redo a lot of tasks over and over and over and over again, not the best, right? So how do you avoid that? Well, They need to be verifying they need to be verifying their beliefs constantly verifying what anyone says. That way they get over their worry, because ti can then team up with their te ti as an ally or their te.
And te knows that it has to be okay with allowing the TI Nemesis becoming a TI ally to verify its own beliefs. And then they could team up together and verify external factors. If people are telling them something, they’re like, Yeah, I’m not going to believe that until I verify that’s true, instead of taking things at face value, that’s a mature is TJ, and that’s an ES TJ is using their ISTP shadow in a very mature way. So, so again, you know, to develop their third gateway function, their Nemesis function, they need to get over their worry.
And they need to be verifying and having the self discipline to verify everything, including their own personal belief system that they have with their ti hero. That’s, that’s in their first gateway function. And again, it creates synergy between the other sides of the mind, because then the subconscious is able to develop even better philosophy, a philosophy of fixing or building cars, for example, right? So or competing, this this also includes competing. So yeah, just just something to be aware of, in that regard.
Now, the super ego, the super ego is a whole different animal. The fourth gateway function, which leads to cognitive transition is the demon function and the demon function. The demon function can be a really big deal. Because the demon function, it’s extroverted feeling, basically, oftentimes, people when they think of ES TJs, they see them as uncaring assholes, like big time, uncaring assholes, right up, uncaring.
Not exactly the best thing in the world. They’re the kind of people that will walk up to a group of people and throw out a singer and then just keep walking on, you know, and then just completely takes all of the air out of the room and can be a serious problem for, for all those people who were in that meeting, and they were walking by. And it’s because you know, Fe demon just really doesn’t care. It just doesn’t care.
And the reason why is because, you know, FYI inferiors, like, hey, if I know I’m doing the good thing, I’m doing the right thing, and you’re inhibiting me from doing the right thing. You’re inhibiting me for doing what I think is morally right. Then I’m going to burn everything down. And I’m going to have to teach you a lesson, right? Well, that’s the thing you know, that’s when that’s when that’s what happens when you know, es TJs get their Fe D with an ENFJ super ego starts coming out.
And it leads to violence. It’s very Rayji as much as this road is very shaky, and very raging itself. Holy smokes. Maybe I’ll try to see if I can film this on my GoPro, because that would be like, a lot better.
switch lanes here that would help. Who knows? So the super ego, the ENFJ super ego and the ENFJ super ego, yeah, it’ll, it’ll burn things down. Because it’s all in the name of poetic justice is trying to like poetic provide poetic justice, right? Because how justice oriented he is TJs are already now INFJ super egos a little bit different. It does not all like a one on one person.
The thing is, though, from an ES TJ point of view, in order for them to be satisfied. It’s not just one person that’s at fault. It’s multiple people who are at fault, multiple people that need to be taught a lesson collectively. And usually the ENFJ super ego targets groups of people because ENFJ super ego represents constructs of man essentially, as the problem.
So like that could be a school system, a bus system, a system of some kind, that or it could be a church. It could be an organization or a job or business, whatever a brand. Basically, the ENFJ super ego just hates and wants to destroy and it wants to teach the leaders of that organization a lesson by by performing some good old poetic justice right? 29:28 Now, not that justice is a problem. The issue is that the ENFJ super ego takes way too far.
And ends up you know, after teaching everyone a lesson, there’s no one left to teach a lesson to because they’ve all been annihilated. That’s the problem. It’s overnight. Now when the ENFJ is super ego is done in a healthy way.
And we don’t really have very many examples of this in history. Let’s be honest. It’s a it’s a completely different approach. Because when the deeming The function becomes an angelic function, very different than E and FJ, super ego becomes self sacrificing.
And it’s actually meeting out that poetic justice to the right people on behalf of others instead of doing on behalf of the self on behalf of the ego, per se, or its own self, if that makes sense. So the ENFJ super ego basically exists, yes, we’re going to mete out justice, that that poetic justice and teach people a lesson. But we’re going to do it in a meaningful way, and not necessarily an expedient way. And a way that would actually benefit people.
And this is where the ES TJ is like, I’m going to seek justice, but I’m going to do it properly, I’m going to follow the systems, the proper channels, I’m not going to be expedient about it. Because remember, folks, when people are using their super egos in the wrong way with their demon, it’s always expedient route, using your super ego in a meaningful way, that’s the way to get the super ego to work properly. So, for example, I have se demon, I have ESFP demon, but when I’m using in a meaningful, angelic way, and I’m poking fun, or I’m mocking people, it’s mocking people or burning down the forest, it’s so for the sake of new life to grow, per se. Or if I’m burning down my life or fat burning down everything, it’s again, for the sake of new life to grow out with the old in with the new burn it all to the ground, the NFJ super ego, its purpose is again, poetic justice.
But doing it in an actual caring way. You know, it’s on behalf of somebody else representation, being that advocate, utilizing that core interpersonal philosophy, by that’s provided by the INFP subconscious if that philosophy exists, and the super ego can mete out that poetic justice while simultaneously following that philosophy and do it for the sake of others and not for the sake of self. And that basically means naturally, that NF J’s super ego is being a bit self sacrificing, because it’s not all about the self anymore. It’s about others.
And that’s the difference. Most of the time, es TJ is used their ENFJ superego on the behalf of themselves and not other people. And that’s a problem, right? So anyway, so again, develop the final gateway function, the fourth gateway function, which is the demon make it into an angelic function by doing what is meaningful and not expedient, right. And then do it not necessarily for the sake of oneself, but for the sake of others as a whole.
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