ESTP & INFJ Duality Pairs | Season 14 Part 4 | CS Joseph
CS Joseph details colloquial Duality pair ESTP & INFJ relationships.
by CS Joseph | Feb 12, 2023 | ESTP, INFJ, Season 14 - Intimacy between the 16 types | 1 comment
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Welcome to CS Joseph Podcast. I’m your host, Samwise, and today I’m addressing the acolyte question,
Why do ESTPs and INFJs hate not being given the benefit of the doubt, aka the episode where CSJ is like,
Hey Sam, you need to like watch the entirety of Star Trek Lower Decks if you want to like get an accurate answer for this episode. Thank you.
I just want to clarify that no one absolutely loves not being given the benefit of the doubt, but it’s the difference between like,
You kidding me? And-
You kidding me?
That totally fell on the ground.
Anyway, alright, let’s begin with the analysis of the two types.
So, ESTPs and INFJs, they are very pessimistic about their own humanity, and them as like human people, character things.
It’s soul temple stuff, and you know, they’re, you know, low level FI users, like FI Critic and FI Trickster,
So they need like that external valuing from other people, as well as, you know, the lack of introverted sensing,
That they are like, not at peace with themselves, or as self-aware, you know, that kind of stuff.
Basically, they aren’t set in stone as people, in a more solid way.
Like me, as an SI child, I’m just like, I’m gonna do me. All the time, basically. You know, they don’t have that as much.
But part of their own rejection of them, so like, you know, FI Critic especially, they reject themselves, and they’re kind of projecting that onto other people.
Like, you know, like the idea of like, you know when you think you’re doing a bad job at something like that,
And then you don’t address it as like, I think I’m doing a bad job to like, a person like a manager or a boss or something like that,
You’re like, sorry for doing a bad job. You’re like, outright say that, you’re outright assuming that you’re doing a bad job,
Or like the idea of, you’re feeling awkward, so you’re assuming everyone feels awkward,
And it’s like, no, that could just be you. You know, this list can go on for miles, but the idea of projecting, you know,
They feel themselves that they’re rejecting themselves, and they’re assuming other people are doing it too, and it’s like, no, no bro, no.
I mean, I can’t say that for everyone, but it’s especially not true 100% of the time.
But what does make these ESTPs and INFJs feel human?
Well, it’s when they proved to someone else through a concrete action, like something tangible, not like a, oh, I intended the best,
Like they did a thing for another human, that was good.
But of course, due to psychological entropy, this could be, you know, extrovert intuition and extrovert sensing,
Where extrovert intuition, like water, kind of like is a slow, gradual wash that creates cool things like the Grand Canyon,
But in your mind, or extrovert sensing, where the wind knocks down a tree and it’s pretty sudden.
But the idea of that psychological entropy is that these concrete actions don’t last long, they kind of decay in your mind,
That, oh yeah, it’s been a long time since I’ve done a concrete action, now it’s time to feel not human again.
So, you know, of course they go back to rejecting themselves and other people, which is a true crime,
Because ESTPs and INFJs should never go lone wolf, you know, they need their wolf pack.
But the only way that an ESTP and an INFJ can feel human is when they are given the choice,
Like, I’m like, hey, you have this chance to prove yourself humane through a concrete action, and it needs to be like a regular thing.
Alright, there’s no good, cleverly written segue this time.
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Alright, back to the video.
Alright, Star Trek Lower Decks.
So, Beckett Mariner, the main character, is an ESTP, sub-developed, sub-focused.
She is a clone of CSJ’s wife, Railgun.
And that woman is a queen.
But, you know, she kind of does a lot of the whole ex-rude feeling child, like, oh, I’m gonna, you know, be helpful to a lot of people,
But also, you know, the TE critic of like, you know, the hell with the rules and lots of that stuff.
But she causes a lot of, you know, problems on the ship, like shenanigans and stuff like that.
Things going wrong a lot of the time because she tends to, you know, stray from the main mission.
You know, things like, oh, she started, like, power washing some walls in one of the episodes,
And that led to, like, some alien rune cipher, whatever stuff, and it, like, sent out a laser,
And it turned, like, one of the guys into, like, this god that was, like, transforming the world into his image, you know, that kind of stuff.
But in the last few episodes of season three, there’s this journalist that, you know, does journalism and interviews with a lot of the people on the ship,
And she was amazed to find out that, you know, all these shenanigans were happening, and she told the captain about it.
The captain is actually the mother of Beck and Mariner, and the captain is, like, a Vainglory type, where, you know, it’s like, oh, yeah, it’s my daughter, whatever stuff,
And, like, you know, a lot of that stuff is, like, you know, she doesn’t base authority a lot, but she doesn’t, like, go after reputation, if that makes sense.
Like, if the mother was, like, an authority type, like, ESTJ or INFP, she’d probably be long gone because of that disrespect of authority,
But with this journalist, you know, getting the stories, like, the shenanigans and stuff like that, and, you know, she was going to write a piece about it, like, is this captain fit to, you know, lead the ship?
That’s going after a reputation. Now that is where she starts getting, like, okay.
But she, basically, any demons, her daughter, where it’s like, she just assumed that, you know, the person telling about this was, you know, her daughter Beck Mariner, because she’s the one that has the most information on this,
But she basically got sent to a different ship, like, the lowest level ship, like, icky and, like, technology from the 70s, not, like, futuristic 70s, but, like, actually our modern 70s.
And the captain found out that, wow, her daughter was the only one that actually gave a good interview with the ship.
So, you know, she feels bad and she’s trying to make rights, but Beck Mariner is long gone. She basically joined grave robbers, but, like, sci-fi grave robbers, like, stealing artifacts from, like, sci-fi tombs and stuff like that.
Luckily, she had the opportunity to show her remanity by, basically, stopping, like, this AI Star Trek ship from destroying, basically, everything.
And she, basically, did that by gathering a wolf pack, basically. Like, she gathered every Star Trek ship that there is to, like, fight off against this one AI Titan ship.
I can’t fully say if all those ships are, like, her wolf pack, but I know at least, like, three of them had her homies on it, like, leading the ships.
So I imagine it’s wolf packs bringing wolf packs. I don’t know.
But I’ll count it as wolf packs. But yeah, so she saved the day, they made things right, and we never got a fourth season.
Okay, so she had the opportunity to be humane.
Now, the needs, as, you know, you’re able to help your templars, your character, temple, soul-temple templars.
Character, soul, temple, templars.
Say that ten times fast.
What you need to do.
They hate not being given the benefit of the doubt.
You should give them the benefit of the doubt, and you know who does that the best?
Philosopher types.
More specifically, like, the wrath-oriented philosopher types, like, you know, absolution, you know, that counterpoint to wrath.
It’s about, basically, absolving all guilt, all wrongdoings from a person, like, 100% forgiveness.
That’s what that’s about.
And you know, if they have their choice taken away, that’s when they prove how humane they are.
Which, you know, that could be several things, like, I’ll give an INFJ example with my INFJ little sister.
Yes, I live in a house of all templars.
INFJ mom, ISTP dad, ISTP brother, INFJ sister.
No, none of them are mistyped. It’s tragic, I know, but…
My sister, she basically passed a school bus illegally and she got caught, then she had to, like, pay a ticket.
But, like, you know, it was just an accident, but my brother was making a joke about it of, like…
Like, oh, sister with a criminal offense, she doesn’t like children, stuff like that, and, you know, she got so mad at the Christmas party.
I think it was a Christmas party, or it was a birthday.
It’s at that general time range, but, like, yeah, she got super mad, was cussing in front of the Pentecostal grandparents, and…
Yeah, she just outright left.
It was so funny, I wish I was there. Anyway.
But, if you aren’t a philosopher type, basically what you can do, or at least do to the best of your ability, is that they’re N.I., they’re, you know, choosing.
Be patient enough, you know, introvert-sensing patience, to give them the chance to prove their humanity.
This is required for giving the benefit of the doubt, is that level of patience.
Happy holidays, everyone. Catch you guys on the next episode, and see ya.
Thanks for watching!